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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 08:55 PM
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Naomi Klein to Rachel: "The scale of the Bail Out is too large for both ..." Crony Capitalism and
Grassroots Stimulus, i.e. jobs.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 08:59 PM
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1. ..... and thus the real reason the government wont nationalize banks
It would be so cost effective the public might expect to be bailed out themselves.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:05 PM
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2. That was the reason the assassination of President Kennedy was allowed.
We ARE owned.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:10 PM
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3. Lay off the tin foil, kids. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:14 PM
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4. Okay, but: Did Kennedy not write an Executive Order establishing a national currency?
And wasn't the recinsion of that order one of the first things that LBJ did after being sworn in?

Forget the conspiracies; aren't these true facts?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:27 PM
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5. On June 4, 1963, John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order 11110
John Fitzgerald Kennedy

On June 4, 1963, John F. Kennedy signed a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, a mere four months before his assassination on November 22, 1963. This decree returned to the U.S. Federal government the Constitutional right to create and "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury."

As a result, US$4,292,893,815 of new "Kennedy Bills" were created through the U.S. Treasury instead of the Federal Reserve System. In 1964, Kennedy's successor, Lyndon B. Johnson, stated that, "Silver has become too valuable to be used as money." The Kennedy bills were removed from circulation.

Below are examples of the $2 and $5 dollar denominated "Kennedy Bills" (also known as "Red Seal Bills"). Note the 1963 date and words "United States Note" at the top instead of the familiar "Federal Reserve Note" wording.





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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:36 PM
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6. Thanks for the information.
Was silver "too valuable"?
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 10:18 PM
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7. More info here in this link:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 10:36 PM
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9. Wouldn't it have been possible to buy Citibank for $50 billion?
Might still be, since Obama Admin has now changed Accounting rules to allow them to seal up their bad assets and commoditize them, so the $$trillion dollars in inflated debts which they used to create $$trillion dollars in real wealth will never have to be paid off.

It never becomes real wealth until it gets into the coffers of the elite... that is why they have a law allowing them to monitor "suspicious transactions" where a person without a lot of money makes a large deposit or withdrawal... because they're not expected or supposed to have as much money as the elite. If they did, the currency would inflate and the wealth of the elite would be destroyed. Inequality is essential to the system, according to Greenspan.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 10:25 PM
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8. Very interesting.
I have thought for some time that this might be the solution for the banking crisis. Let them go under. Create a United States Bank, backed by the gold and silver in our reserves. The value could remain stable and our money would be worth something once again. Let the Federal Reserve compete against the "real" dollars of the US Government. It would not take long for people to dispose of their Federal Reserve Notes, would be my guess?
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