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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:34 AM
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Military Deeply Involved in Christian Reality Television Show
http://www.pubrecord.org/religion/565-military-deeply-involved-in-christian-reality-television-show.html

The Public Record

06 May 2009

By Jason Leopold

The Pentagon was involved in the production of a cable program that featured two so-called “extreme” missionaries embedded with a U.S. Army unit in Afghanistan trying to convert Muslims to Christianity.

The popular reality series, "Travel the Road," aired on the Trinity Broadcasting Network and featured Will Decker and Tim Scott, two so-called "extreme" missionaries who travel the globe to “preach the Gospel to the ends of the earth and encourage the church to be active in the Great Commission.”

The other cable program green-lit by the Pentagon is “God’s Soldier,” which aired in September on the Military Channel, and was filmed at Forward Operating Base McHenry in Hawijah, Iraq. It features an Army chaplain openly promoting fundamentalist Christianity to active-duty U.S. soldiers in Iraq in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), a watchdog organization, amended a federal lawsuit it filed against the Department of Defense last year, currently in federal District Court in Kansas City, Kansas to “include these despicable unconstitutional promotions of fundamentalist Christianity in the combat zones of Iraq and Afghanistan,” said MRFF founder and president Mikey Weinstein.

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http://www.pubrecord.org/religion/565-military-deeply-involved-in-christian-reality-television-show.html
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:00 AM
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1. K&R without comment, because no comment is necessary, IMO. nm
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:16 AM
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2. K&R.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:17 AM
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3. Yep - No comment necessary. K&R.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:30 AM
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4. K&R
Because there just as many "Christians" in foxholes as there are having really good sex. They both call his name alot.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:51 AM
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5. Power seems to do these type things
If the church has power it is grabbed by others to get some of it such as a party or rulers. Not hard to see why the Military would not get into the same type of business or a church. One hand feeds the other. It is why the laws say that the week will also be protected. That does not sound really clear even to me but maybe some one can put it on line, better.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 04:13 AM
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6. Disgraceful. k+r, n/t
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:06 AM
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7. unbelievable! K&R
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 04:00 PM
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22. I wonder if they will show the pictures of these idiots strung up when
they reach Arab territory? Abysmal stuff, this.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:21 AM
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8. Duh!!
K & R
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:23 AM
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9. THIS is how afraid the Repugs have been of the radical fundamentalists..
This would NEVER have been greenlighted under any other administration...NEVER
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:10 AM
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10. Must read this on Alaska's Baseball, Jesus, and Alaska's Military Bases
Edited on Thu May-07-09 06:20 AM by 1776Forever
Baseball, Jesus, and Alaska's Military Bases

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/press-releases/t2a_baseball.html

Tuesday September 9, 2008

By: Chris Rodda

After reading about Sarah Palin's "coincidental" promotion of Alaska National Guard Adjutant General, Craig E. Campbell, from Major General to Lieutenant General as soon as he changed his tune about her involvement as commander-in-chief of his troops, I decided to take a look at the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) files on Alaska's military bases to see if anything of concern is going on up there religious freedom-wise.

First on the list was the website of the U.S. Army, Alaska (USARAK) Command Chaplain's Office "Ministry Team," which serves Fort Wainwright, Fort Greely, Fort Richardson, and their tenant units, which include the Alaska National Guard, whose headquarters is located at Fort Richardson. The USARAK Command Chaplain's Office is blatantly and exclusively Christian, not even providing information for soldiers of other religions. Even the worst of the other military installations that provide no non-Christian services or programs at least provide contact numbers or listings of off-base houses of worship for non-Christians to find services of their faith.

.............

In March 2007, Fort Wainwright hosted an Army "Strong Bonds" retreat, contracting an organization called Unlimited Potential, Inc. to provide "social services." Unlimited Potential, Inc. is an evangelical baseball ministry with a military ministry whose mission is: "To assist commanders and chaplains in providing religious support to military service members and their families by sharing the life-changing Gospel of Jesus Christ through the medium of baseball..." and "to use our God-given abilities in baseball to reach those who do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and to also encourage and challenge those who do.

(more at link)

.............

And then check this cite out for more on abuses of religious interventions:

Religious Freedom and the Military

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/

MRFF’s role is to ensure that our government does indeed adhere to the spirit as well as the letter of the Constitution; that it leads by example. The next chapter in the never-ending struggle to expand religious freedom in the military is being written, and MRFF is playing a critical part in the effort. A watchdog’s role requires constant vigilance.

...............

And last but not least check this out:

Ryan Grim
HuffPost Reporting From DC

Soldiers In Afghanistan Given Bibles, Told To "Hunt People For Jesus

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/soldiers-in-afghanistan-g_n_195674.html

...........

I was listening to a "religious" radio station the other day for a few minutes and a woman in South Carolina called in and said that "We must get this current Administration out of there within the next 3 years hopefully." She went on to say that the Christian community must fight back with everything they have to stop the ravages to our religious freedom. This is the very thing we are fighting against in Iraq and Afghanistan, ideologues who believe their way is the only way! When you hear and read about this kind of fanaticism it is very disturbing to see it in our own Military and it must be rooted out!

Thank you for the post!

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:31 PM
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23. K&R to the OP, and in reply re: Ft. Wainwright -
it wasn't until Iraq exploded and Ft. Wainwright's population doubled that our local Bigoted Baptist Church also grew very, very large.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:13 AM
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11. "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
~ Ann Coulter
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:15 AM
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12. The point was to make enemies
Without radical Islam, the Dominionists have no argument for War.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:46 AM
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13. Precisely! PNAC blueprint all the way
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:42 AM
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19. A blast from the past:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 09:24 AM
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29. How the Crusade began
The beginnings of this Crusade cane to us from the mouths of the right-wing-reactionary elements in society:

The original link has been deleted but the Wayback Machine still had a copy:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070703011333/http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Dossier/1998-11-12/introduction.html

formercia (1000+ posts) Thu May-24-07 10:02 AM
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8. The Crusader rationale behind the covert action:

Edited on Thu May-24-07 10:03 AM by formercia
THE WORLD IN 2050

by Hon. Frank Shakespeare

Hon. Frank Shakespeare is the former U.S. ambassador to the Vatican. This address was delivered at the 1996 Wanderer Forum in Washington, D.C.

http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Dossier/1998-11...

what is Islam? I had the privilege of living in Russia, in the Mediterranean, in Portugal, and in Italy for 5 years as your ambassador there. Those who have traveled know that Europeans think very, very differently at the visceral level about Islam than we do in America. To most Americans, Islam is vaguely a group of guys riding around on camels in the desert. That’s oversimplified , but we have no up close sense of Islam at all. For the Europeans, it is very, very different. Europeans know in their stomach, if they don’t know it in their immediate intellectual consciousness, that it was in historical terms just yesterday, just some centuries ago, that Islam was created in the wilderness of the Arabian peninsula, and went across the whole of northern Africa, that is to say, the southern Mediterranean, and then attempted in two prongs to take Christendom. One prong went up through the Balkans, and was stopped at the gates of Vienna by King John Sobieski of Poland in one of the pivotal battles of all history. And if that battle had been lost, it is probable that most of us in this room would be Muslim. And then at another point they went up through the other peninsula sticking down from Europe. The Balkan peninsula is on one side. On the other side is Iberia. And they went up through Iberia and they went into France and they were stopped only at Tours by Charles Martel, in another of the great, epical, momentous battles of history, and if that battle had been lost, it is probable that most of us in this room today would be Muslim. It took eight hundred years for them to be driven out of Iberia and down across the Mediterranean— 400 years to get them out of what is now Portugal and 800 years to get them out of Spain. And then there was the third critical battle, the naval Battle of LePonto, for which we have the Feast of the Rosary in the month of October. Europeans are very, very conscious in their viscera, that just across the Mediterranean from them is an enormous, forceful idea. Islam is not Russia, Islam is an idea. It is not a nation, it is an idea. And it came within a hair, on several occasions, of conquering Christendom, which would have changed the course of humanity.

--snip--

A thought about Islam: Something tragic is happening in Western Europe, which was traditionally Christendom. It is almost never spoken about, it’s only very rarely referred to, but it seems to me to be of staggering importance. And when I say it you will say, "Well, that’s too dramatic a phrase." It’s not meant to be dramatic. It’s meant to be an exact description of the truth. And it’s this. Europe is committing suicide. What do I mean by that? Europe has a birth rate which is simply suicidal. For example, it takes 2.1 babies per woman in a nation, in a society, to keep the population even, if you exclude immigration and emigration. The birthrate in Spain is the lowest in the entire world. It is 1.2. The birthrate in Italy is the second lowest in the entire world. It is 1.3. We tend to think of a big fat Italian mama with ten bambinos, because that’s the way it used to be 50 years ago. Well it isn’t. Italy is dying. Spain is dying. Two of the most Catholic countries in the world. Why? That’s for people much wiser than I am to grope with. France is 1.4. Germany is 1.3. If you take the 15 countries that constitute the European Union, that constitute Christendom in the historical sense, the birthrate is 1.5. Right across the Mediterranean, directly across the Mediterranean, in the Muslim countries and in black Africa and in India, the birth rate is 3.7 to over 4. That is a staggering situation. What does it mean? What it means is very clear. In the lives of our grandchildren, or maybe our great-grandchildren, but in just a moment in history, you’ll look at a map and see a big structure that looks like a boot and it will stick down into the Mediterranean and it will say on it "Italy." But it won’t have Italians in it! It will have people who come from Libya, be cause Italy has a special relationship with Libya in the past, and people who will come from Turkey because they need work. 28 years ago there wasn’t one single mosque in Rome. When I left there 4 years ago there were over 200. In Rome! Now many of those are storefronts. But one of them is one of the biggest, most modern mos ques in all the world. In Italy! And what are the Italians doing? They have the second lowest birthrate in all the world. I do not know Islam. I haven’t studied it. But Islam has been re-animated in our time. After its enormous vitality three to four centuries ago, when these great battles took place, it sort of went to sleep. And in our lifetime, in the last 40 to 50 years, it has been re-animated. In many ways it’s been re-animated as an idea. Islamic fundamentalism is the governing mode in such countries as Iraq, and in Syria, and in Sudan, and in Algeria, and Iran. It has just taken over Afghanistan. An Islamic leader has just been elected the Prime Minister of Turkey.

Who is to know where Islam is going? It would be a man wiser and more educated than myself. But it is an enormous question. Clearly there have been two elements which have played some role in it. There has been an insertion of two new things into that world in our lifetimes. One is oil, and the other is Israel. In any event, in all of that mix, you have a resurgent Islam, you have the huge money of oil, you have the fervor of belief, and of course you have something far more than just the Arab world. Islam runs down through Pakistan, and South east Asia and India. Muslims are 80% of the population in Indonesia, one of the largest countries in the world. And the struggle in our time for the soul of Africa is the struggle between Islam and Christianity. So in the year 2050, what is Islam?

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:40 PM
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26. Oh, don't worry. They'd think of one.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:55 AM
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14. K&R n/t
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:20 AM
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15. K&R
:kick:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:45 AM
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16. K&R
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:13 AM
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17. Weinstein?
Isn't that a Jewish name? Just asking....
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:13 PM
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21. He's from the group suing them. nt
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:14 AM
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18. They need a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy on religion.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:51 AM
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20. Well duh, it's about using christianity to recruit soldiers.
Onward, etc.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:45 PM
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24. So the message I'm getting: Believe or die!!!
:nuke:
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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:34 PM
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25. Article 54, where are you?
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:58 PM
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27. Amy Goodman covered this on Wednesday
highly recommend that segment at democracynow.org
it's chilling.
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suede1 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:28 AM
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28. She's the best.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 10:21 AM
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30. There's absolutly nothing christian about killing people.
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