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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:07 PM
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Intelligence Report: Pelosi Briefed on Use of Interrogation Tactics in Sept. ’02
Edited on Thu May-07-09 06:23 PM by babylonsister
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/05/intelligence-re.html

Intelligence Report: Pelosi Briefed on Use of Interrogation Tactics in Sept. ’02
May 07, 2009 6:02 PM


ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was briefed on the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on terrorist suspect Abu Zubaydah in September 2002, according to a report prepared by the Director of National Intelligence’s office and obtained by ABC News.

The report, submitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee and other Capitol Hill officials Wednesday, appears to contradict Pelosi’s statement last month that she was never told about the use of waterboarding or other special interrogation tactics. Instead, she has said, she was told only that the Bush administration had legal opinions that would have supported the use of such techniques.

The report details a Sept. 4, 2002 meeting between intelligence officials and Pelosi, then-House intelligence committee chairman Porter Goss, and two aides. At the time, Pelosi was the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee.

The meeting is described as a “Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of particular EITs that had been employed.”

EITs stand for “enhanced interrogation techniques,” a classification of special interrogation tactics that includes waterboarding.

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UPDATE: The report also details dozens of other meetings with members of Congress -- though not with Pelosi present -- where the use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques was described.

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:12 PM
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1. K&R Well, well, well.
I knew all along that she had to have know what was going on. Now we know why impeachment was off the table.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:31 PM
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7. Yes, didn't we all know it here at DU before everyone else?!
Remember when she got off Air Force One and exclaimed gleefullly how Bush wasn't such a bad guy. We knew then she'd been bought off hook, line and sinker. You see, Nancy, you can't fool us one bit.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:14 PM
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2. And somehow I suspect this is why President Obama is not pushing like hell...
to charge the Bush Administration with war crimes (not his job I know, but he is not pushing for it either). My thoughts are that if charges are persued then some Dems. are going to get caught up in having had knowledge of the Interrogation techniques.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:20 PM
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3. No doubt about it, LakeSamish706. But that's too bad for Pelosi, who should have
stood against torture. She was so caught up in the rhetoric from BushCo and the post-911 fever that she couldn't bring herself to stand for what was right and legal.

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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:23 PM
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4. Disappointing. We need honest leadership. That's not too much to ask for, is it?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:26 PM
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5. I'll happily throw Pelosi under the bus
If (and it's a big fat fucking IF) she was fully briefed on every last particular, every why, every wherefore, and every last scintilla of the Bush administration's internal workings on the matter.

Anyone want to bet me that that was the case? Ten will get you a hundred.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:32 PM
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8. I'll help you.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:26 PM
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6. as we collectively sit here scratching our asses wondering why Impeachment was 'off the table'
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:36 PM
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9. Consider the source!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:42 PM
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10. Will Reuters work?
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N07389457.htm

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Meanwhile, questions arose about how much House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi knew about the techniques.

A report to congressional leaders from CIA Director Leon Panetta disclosed that Pelosi, then the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, was briefed about the use of interrogation techniques in 2002.

She has said she was never told about the use of waterboarding -- simulated drowning -- or other techniques, saying only that the Bush administration had told her about legal opinions justifying their use.

But the report said Pelosi was briefed on Sept. 4, 2002, about enhanced interrogation techniques (EITs) on terrorism suspect Abu Zubaydah "and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed."
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:47 PM
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14. Not really.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:50 PM
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15. This is from 2002, remember
Pelosi wasn't Speaker; she was the then-equivalent of John Boehner today, and the Republicans were running roughshod over practically everything. The locution that Pelosi was "briefed" with "a desciption" of the techniques being used doesn't tell us anything, really. Pelosi was also in no position to register an objection, demand more information, or do anything else to affect what was going on. That is, if she even got enough information to form an opinion about what she was being "briefed" on that day in September 2002.

I'm a great deal more interested in holding responsible the people who actually dreamed up these "enhanced interrogation techniques," put them into practice, and wrote after-the-fact rationalizations for the torture they had inflicted on an insane person. This is really not much more than a feeble attempt to portray this Bush administration program as some kind of "bipartisan" effort.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:56 PM
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16. Thank you for that reality check. You're right, it was a whole
different situation for Pelosi then. But she's getting a lot of flak for this, and will.

I want to know who is really responsible, too. I think we need to know and deserve it.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:47 PM
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11. It is on the front page of ABC news/politics website. Link below.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:52 PM
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12. There's a link in the OP, too. nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:38 PM
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13. Not that I don't trust ABC news..
but where's the report?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:00 PM
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17. The media needs to focus on the real story: Bush war crimes. Here:
Scott Horton: The Bush Era Torture-Homicides

Note Gen. McCaffery's statement.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:01 PM
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18. nothing 'pelosi knew' in any way absolves bu$h*/cheney of war crimes
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:50 PM
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19. That's true. But really, think about 'off the table'. nt
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