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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:30 PM
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Gingrich was founder of the "Newt defense"....that oral sex doesn't count.
I ran across this Salon article today from 1998, and I started laughing out loud. I mean here we have the 3 stooges on the Sunday talk shows....and it's a contest between two of them who has done the most outrageous things.

Jed Lewison's diary at Daily Kos today kept me chuckling.

It's called "GOP brings out 'A-team' for Sunday spin". He had this picture.



The GOP's talking heads for Sunday: Newt Gingrich on Fox News Sunday, John McCain on ABC's This Week with George Stephanoulos Stephanopoulos, and Dick Cheney on CBS's Face the Nation.

:::Update -- 11:44AM: Detroit Mark comments:

"Shoot Me In The Face The Nation"
Funny how that title automatically reads that way to me even though the words aren't there.

Update 2 -- 11:47AM: DNC spokesman Hari Sevugan:

1996 called. They want their GOP Sunday show lineup back.


The Salon article from 1998 deserves some in depth reading. It shows the utter hypocrisy of the Republicans, and the nervy pushy way they went after our party. They have no shame.

Time to remember Newt's glass house

No, it's not compassion that tempers the speaker's censure of Clinton's self-destructive sexual compulsions. It's self-protection. Gingrich, lest we forget, has a closet full of sexual misconduct. For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen "the Newt Defense": Oral sex doesn't count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the "inner" Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

"We had oral sex," Manning revealed. "He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" She added that Gingrich threatened her: "If you ever tell anybody about this, I'll say you're lying."

Manning was then married to a professor at West Georgia, the backwater college where Gingrich taught. "I don't claim to be an angel," she told Sheehy, but "he's morally dishonest."

Gingrich refused to comment on Manning's charges, though he has admitted sexual indiscretions during his first marriage -- hey, it was the '70s, man! But Newt's oral sex denial proved embarrassing at a time when he was the secular leader of the "family values" crowd, appearing frequently at Christian Coalition gatherings.


There is more in the article:

As a high school student -- precocious, lonely, overweight -- Newt secretly romanced his geometry teacher, a buxom, matronly woman named Jackie Battley. The furtive romance with his 24-year-old teacher included nighttime sessions in the back of a car in remote areas of Fort Benning, Ga. Once, Newt and Jackie were so worked up, they got their car caught in a tank trap on the military base and had to call his best friend to rescue them before a daylight exposé, according to the friend's widow, Linda Tilton. Defying his stepfather, a stern Army colonel, Newt pursued Jackie, married her and promptly had two children. Jackie Gingrich raised the daughters, worked to put Newt through graduate school and was a loyal political wife during his two unsuccessful campaigns for Congress in 1974 and 1976.


When Jackie was recovering from cancer, a more shameful incident occurred. And more after that. Yet he is still given media credibility, able to appear on the Sunday TV talk shows.

Gingrich served divorce papers on first wife while she was being treated for cancer.

Gingrich: Do as I Say, Not as I Do
By Robert Scheer
Published August 17, 1999 in the Los Angeles Times

The news that Newt Gingrich is headed for his second messy divorce, allegedly involving a longtime affair with a House of Representatives employee, has been largely ignored by news media that have not always been as sensitive to the privacy needs of major politicians.

It's true that Gingrich is no longer in Congress, where he orchestrated the impeachment of the president of the United States over charges rising from Bill Clinton's sexual dalliances. But Gingrich, through his many public appearances, remains a self-appointed definer of the Republican Revolution, which counted family values at its core. These very values are called into question if the married speaker of the House was having an affair with a much-younger congressional employee who ultimately reported to him.

Critics of Gingrich have long made much of the insensitivity he demonstrated in serving his first wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital being treated for cancer. Nor did news of his efforts to cut life insurance coverage for the mother of his children always endear Gingrich to his family values supporters, but it was generally assumed that his marital errors were in the past.

This time, his approach was less personal. Marianne Gingrich told the Washington Post that she was informed of the affair and the request for a divorce last May in a telephone call from Newt to her mother's home, where she was visiting.


Molly Ivins was not fond of Newt Gingrich.

Having watched election coverage nonstop all week, I sometimes wake screaming, "Bipartisanship!" and scare myself.

Of all the viral members of the media who have been suggesting that the Dems cooperate with their political opponents, the one who rendered me almost unconscious with surprise was Newt Gingrich. Newt Gingrich, the Boy Scout. Newt Gingrich, the man who sat there and watched Congress impeach and try Bill Clinton for lying about having an extramarital affair while he, Newt Gingrich, was lying about having an extramarital affair. (This all took place during his second marriage. The first one ended when he told his wife he was divorcing her while she was in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment.)

This is the level of Republican hypocrisy that reminds us all how far the Dems have to go. I tell you what. Let's all hold hands together and sing, "Oh the Farmers and the Cowboys Should Be Friends!" Just not, please, Newt Gingrich, the man whose contribution to civility was to recommend that all Democrats be referred to with such words as cowards, traitors, commies, godless, liars and other such bipartisan-promoting terms.


But there he is big as life all over TV....and on this Sunday while so many are not.

Marc Ambinder suggests that the Republicans are simply unable to find new faces to go on the air now.

What Rebranding? Part XVIII

Appearing on the Sunday shows on behalf of the Great Opposition Party: John McCain (This Week), Newt Gingrich (Fox News Sunday), Dick Cheney (Face The Nation.) All will be asked if the Republican Party needs to rebrand itself. All will give some version of the same answer: if we just lived up to our values, the American people would pay attention to us. Actually, that's not fair to Gingrich, who seems to understand that the third leg of the GOP stool can only be attached if Republicans figure out a way to offer a meaningful alternative route to universal health care and solutions for the alienated middle class. Still... kind of dovetails with the Democratic message du jour, which is that Republicans can't find new faces to put on TV.


I see so many good people in our own party really left on the outside or left behind. That's bad enough. But to see the corporate media give these guys so much Sunday prime time air time is just shameless.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:05 PM
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1. I'm trying to imagine it ..........
If I had given Newt a blow job, could I go on living afterward?

No.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:23 PM
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2. Ok, that made me chuckle.
For some reason I am finding that having these 3 on the airwaves Sunday is just humorous.

I give McCain more credibility than the other two, but then I remember he picked Sarah Palin so he could survive the religious right.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:39 PM
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4. Well, what's so funny - shocking, really -
is that these are the only Republican representatives the party can come up with.

Where is the next generation? Where are their candidates for 2010?

What do they stand for?

It seems like they cannot give up on their pandering to the Christian fundies and rightwing backwoods morans, and until they let go of that, they'll not be able to produce a platform that has any kind of meaning for the country.

Truly, their leader is Rush Limbaugh. How incompetent do you have to be to allow that to have happened?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:25 PM
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11. On Rachel's show tonight....Howard Dean reiterated that Rush was their leader.
I am looking for the video, good interview.

He chuckled when he said it, but he said the only conclusion one could come to was that they looked to Rush for leadership.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:37 PM
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12. I saw that, listened to it .........
And everything Dr. Dean said was dead right on.

That guy gets better and better. It's got to be so gratifying for him, to see all his ideas prove to be RIGHT! He's gonna go down in history as the man who changed how elections were run.

I like him so much....................
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:42 PM
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14. I was really surprised to hear her ask him to co-host the show sometime.
Interesting.

I hope he does go down in history for all he has done. He is getting no credit from his party leadership.

Although I saw a video clip today Tim Kaine saying that Dean followed through with the 5 million Terry McAuliffe promised him. Terry has been claiming he did it, so was glad to see Kaine speak out.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:57 PM
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17. Wait. What?
Terry McAuliffe - I don't like him. Never did. Yes, I know he's been a great fundraiser and a real asset to the Democrats, but I don't get a good vibe from him. Now, he's trying to run for governor here, and that's troublesome, too. He's got a good opponent in Brian Moran, who's from our fair city of Alexandria (his brother is Jim Moran, our Congressman - the one who just came up with proposed legislation to keep erectile dysfunction drug commercials off the air until late at night - Jim Moran, who's notorious for not keeping it in his pants through three marriages!), so I'll support Brian.

So, what did McAuliffe promise, and what did Dr. Dean do?

Rachel's invitation to co-host thrills me. Won't that be a great show?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:07 AM
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19. Ok, here's the story.
In January before Dean took over as chair, Terry promised 5 million to Tim Kaine for his gubernatorial run. That was quite a bit of money. But Dean followed through with it and never griped or said a word.

Now during his campaign apparently Terry is claiming he gave the money. A fine line, but an important one.

Here's the Kaine clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaQxPgAEigE

"There's been a lot of debate on whether or not Terry McAuliffe or Howard Dean should get the credit for the $5,000,000 invested in Tim Kaine's campaign in 2005.

In this clip from a few years ago, Tim Kaine says it was Howard Dean."
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:21 AM
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21. That's what I think of a typical McAuliffe -
and typical Dr. Dean - an honorable man.

Thank you - I didn't know anything about that...........
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:35 PM
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31. The promise was done shortly before Dean took office...
and was not in my opinion realistic given the changeover of chairman. But Dean honored it.

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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:51 AM
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34. Simple response to your questions:
Where is the next generation? Doesn't exist

Where are their candidates for 2010? They have none

What do they stand for? Nothing!

The only thing that may save the republican party in the next decade or so is if Obama gets caught getting a blowjob from an intern!
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:21 AM
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20. McCain deserves no extra credibility! His cowboyism cost the lives of 100+ military personnel. n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:27 PM
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3. Republicon Family Values are so freaking wide-stance and diaper-clad
They totally suck.

Verily, I say unto thee, republicons are the Latter Day Pharisees.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:24 AM
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22. Dick Morris is a bonafide toe-sucker! His Republican credentials are intact!!! n/t
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:11 AM
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25. Don't forget the dog collar
Kinky but harmless shit that no red-blooded American moralizer should object to. Wouldn't "no sex" Morris warrant a chapter in Bill Bennett's next "virtue" book?
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:20 AM
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27. Newt Gingrich Defense of Marriage Act
1. Enagage in as many "Acts" as possible outside of marriage.
2. Throw your seriously ill spouse under the bus and "Act" immediately to pursue a healthier and younger subject. (Wait until just after the upcoming election is over to "Act" on this however).
3. Marry as many times as possible during your lifetime. "Act-ions" speak louder than words after all. There's no better "Defense"!
4. Accuse a sitting President of seeking to destoy the moral fiber of the country as a smokescreen against your own questionable "Acts".
5. Carry yourself as a Bill Bennett moral hero, and "Act" as if nothing has ever happened in your own life that might preclude pointing an accusing finger at someone else.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:42 PM
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5. Newt did the Edwards thing before it was so horrible that it would end your career.
He banged another broad while his wife was fighting cancer.

He informed her of their impending divorce while she lay in a hospital bed.

Then he went off and screwed his "new model."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 07:10 PM
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7. AND Newt is all overTV....and guess who is shamed.
That's the way of the world. It's okay if Republicans do it.

:eyes:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 10:58 PM
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10. In fact...
that is one of the reasons this caught my eye today.

How very much the Republicans do and it gets ignored. But Democrats are shamed.

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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:49 PM
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6. So that is where Clinton got the idea that a BJ was not sex.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 08:19 PM
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8. Yet no one in Washington accused him of being a 'sex addict' as Clinton was. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 08:30 PM
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9. You are right. The old "double standard."
It's okay if Republicans do it.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:39 PM
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13. Can you imagine
how desperately the GOPigs searched for something, anything, resembling sexual infidelity on the part of Obama? And they couldn't find anything because the guy's not a hound.

But, imagine what the campaign was like! The money spent, the false leads followed, the frustration.

Nice to think about that .......................
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:52 PM
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16. And look how now they refuse to take blame for torture....they blame Pelosi
They are cowards.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:58 PM
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18. That ain't gonna stick -
Pelosi made it clear from the start what they were told, and even the CIA is backing her - plus, they were not allowed to tell anyone about it - so, another BIG WHOOP.

I thought when Chimpy left the WH that I'd somehow hate them all less.

I was wrong.......................

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:47 PM
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15. Sept of 95 Vanity Fair! Thank you. I lost my copy of that article
and couldn't recall the date of the issue. It was a real eye opener!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:00 AM
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23. K&R
:kick:
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:01 AM
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24. Wonderful post! Really brings back the memories.
I used to live in Cobb County and remember Newt Gingrich. I still laugh when I remember Michael Moore ambushing him at a GOPAC (I think that's the acronym) parade.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:15 AM
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26. as an aside, having had oral sex, it not only counts, its SCORES!
:)
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:15 AM
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28. I saw Newt with his new Miss Hotsy Totsy during this.
I was flying a lot for business in the late 90s and flew on the same plane with Newt and his Girlfriend (and another occasion Phil "They're just whining" Gramm) flying out of DC National (I wont call it Reagan) airport.

She looked 15 years younger than him and had VERY blonde, nearly platinum hair. This was during this whole affair scandal of his and so the whole plane was abuzz about it.

As an aside, something was going on when I met Phil Gramm that was embarassing to Republicans, and I went right up to him and asked him about it and I will never forget how he dismissed the whole thing out of hand and said that "in two days, no one will even remembered that this happened." The way he said it oozed an unbelievable amount of arrogance and smugness. I remember wanting to slug him.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:33 AM
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29. I vote we hammer Newtie the same way the Repugs have hammered Ted Kennedy.
Kennedy hasn't had a realistic chance a the Presidency for years, because, every time he showed his face, the repugs shouted, "Chapaquidick!"(sp)

Some nice street theater at all his public appearances, consisting of a woman in a hospital bed,and some dweeb dressed up as a divorce lawyer, would get TV time and reduce any chance Newtie will ever have credibility with a female audience.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:57 AM
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30. Archives are interesting. Salon. Dec. 1999.. Gingrich vs Gingrich.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:20 PM
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32. More "Good Newt, Bad Newt"...Vanity Fair 1989. Dems were going to investigate him.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/boyernewt1.html

"In fact, it has been a terrible week for the chunky, forty-five-year-old Republican congressman from Georgia, and this is only Thursday afternoon. On Tuesday, The New York Times gave prominent display on its op-ed page to an article written by one of Gingrich's most bitter Democratic foes, Representative Bill Alexander of Arkansas, who branded Gingrich a neo-McCarthyite and urged his colleagues to take up the fight against him. Then Gingrich and his wife, Marianne, met with reporters to answer charges (filed by Alexander) of possible improprieties in an unusual book-promotion deal --improprieties loosely similar to those with which Gingrich has charged Speaker Wright. It was a difficult, testy news conference; the press couldn't resist probing the obvious parallels, and after just a few moments Marianne Gingrich stalked out of the press gallery, sobbing. The event landed Newt and Marianne Gingrich on the front page of Wednesday's Washington Post .

Thursday is going downhill fast. It began with a morning meeting with House Republican officials in the office of Bob Michel, the minority leader. Gingrich discovered that four Democratic congressmen were asking the House ethics committee to appoint an outside counsel to investigate the charges against him. The next item on his schedule was a National Press Club luncheon, at which he was to be the featured guest. Marianne Gingrich was supposed to attend as well, but she had been so upset that she refused to accompany her husband. Now, when he returns to his office following the lunch, she is on the phone, in tears; a friend from Ohio has called, asking about an account of the press conference in the Cleveland Plain Dealer .

"He is a little testy today," says Sheila Ward, Gingrich's faithful young press aide, who has just earned a wicked blast of Gingrich ire for turning up the sound on an office television (tuned, appropriately enough, to C-SPAN, the public-service cable network that covers government)."

I don't know if they ever investigated.



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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:49 AM
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33. Excellent compilation of Newt's hypocrisy - can I send this post to some people I know???
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:53 AM by George II
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