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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:50 AM
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Politicians, especially Republicans, do not recognize the revolution that is taking place...
Edited on Sat May-09-09 12:18 PM by kentuck
Information is power and there is a new recipe for information. It is called the Internet. Republicans scratch their heads and wonder how to "re-brand" themselves? They don't understand that the people have educated themselves and they no longer accept the brand that the Republicans are selling.

There is a revolution taking place. People have seen what the taxcuts for the wealthy have gotten them in the last eight years. People have seen the lies and the torture. They can no longer be fooled in the numbers of the past. That is why the Republican Party is sitting at about 25% identity.

But they are not alone. There are many Democrats lost in this illusion also. Unless they recognize the sea change that is taking place, they will also be isolated on the island of public opinion.

The people want something from their government for a change. They are tired of giving and giving and giving and getting nothing in return. They want healthcare reform. Those that don't recognize this and stand in the way will pay a big price. The people want a fair tax plan for America. They are tired of tax havens and scams by the wealthy to keep from paying taxes. They want our jobs back in America. And they want to share in the profits of their labor. They want the transparent and moral government that they have read about in the history books and were taught about in the schools. The times, they are a' changin'...
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:23 PM
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1. I hadn't thought of it that way.
I hope you are right. Perhaps, the internet is leveling the playing field against the influence of big money. I had thought the only way to go would have been campaign reform. I hope that is what is happening.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:26 PM
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2. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kentuck.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:33 PM
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3. Thanks Uncle Joe...
I try to call 'em the way I see 'em...
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:09 PM
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4. Oh, they understand it. Thats why they want to control and censor it.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:18 PM
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5. The genie is out of the bottle and we aren't going back.
We're in the process of re-mapping the political landscape and it isn't only taking place on the internet. The internet is a medium, a tool, and if they could, they'd disrupt it. So far the primary means available to do that is with disinformation, distortion, obfuscation and manipulation. They may yet try something even more sinister. However, the fact is it isn't only happening on the net. It is happening in homes and neighborhoods, in offices and where ever people gather and talk about what is meaningful to them.

What is still lacking is a concise map that precisely outlines the actual (as opposed to presumed) structures of power and includes the use of counter-intelligence forces as operatives seeking to sustain the status quo. The thing we have to remember is we out-number them. Our biggest challenge is organizing across old political boundaries and moving to direct political action.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:31 PM
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6. Excellent points.
"So far the primary means available to do that is with disinformation, distortion, obfuscation and manipulation."

But are they able to distort and obfuscate anymore? The election of Barack Obama was a cannon shot across their bow. The people had awakened. They no longer bought the same old crap that was being sold by the Limbaughs and Hannitys and other puppets of the right-wing propaganda operation.

They say the truth shall set you free. Are we truly on the road to freedom?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 02:08 PM
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10. Is Obama a shot across their bow or a co-option of populist sentiment?
You might be interested in a recent article by Paul Street, highly critical of the Obama administration from a populist perspective: http://www.zcommunications.org/zmag/viewArticle/21334">Obama's Violin, Populist rage and the uncertain containment of change

A concluding excerpt:



Towards a New Populist Moment?

The left Democratic weekly the Nation focuses most of its ire on an easy target—the out-of-power Republicans. It says that "Obama Needs a Protest Movement" (November 13, 2008), not that the people and democracy need one—an excellent expression of so-called liberalism's deeply ingrained habit of subordinating movement concerns to the needs of the Democrats' leading politicians. The Nation also absurdly calls Obama's tepid budget proposal "an audacious plan to transform America" in progressive ways.

Many of the Nation's so-called left liberals might want to take another look at Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States along with Frances Fox Piven's and Richard Cloward's classic Poor Peoples' Movements: Why They Succeed, How They Fail to review some elementary lessons on how serious progressive change occurs. These authors demonstrate in rich historical detail how direct action, social disruption, and the threat of radical change from the bottom up forced social and political reform benefiting working- and lower-class people and black people during the 1930s and the 1960s. They show the critical role played by grass-roots social movements and popular resistance in educating presidents and the broader power elite on the need for change. Today, we can be sure that the in-power Democratic Party and president will not move off the corporate and military "center" unless "the power of the people asserts itself in ways that the occupant of the White House will find dangerous to ignore" (Zinn, "Election Madness," the Progressive, March 2008).

For what it's worth, the Democrats are best exposed as agents of empire, inequality, and "corporate-managed democracy" (Alex Carey's useful term) when they hold top offices. That's when their populist and peaceful sounding campaign rhetoric hits the cold pavement of corporate imperial governance.

It's not too late for genuinely progressive activists and citizens to pursue radical-democratic change in defiance of both the profit system and that system's Democratic Party guardians. Thankfully, we may be heading for something of a new populist moment in the U.S., despite efforts of leading political, economic, ideological, and communications institutions. As giant financial bailouts expose the crippling chasm between the investor and political classes and the broad citizenry, "people everywhere learned a blunt lesson about power, who has it and who doesn't. They watched Washington run to rescue the very financial interests that caused the catastrophe. They learned that government has plenty of money to spend when the right people want it. 'Where's my bailout,' became the rueful punchline at lunch counters and construction sites nationwide. Then to deepen the insult, people watched as establishment forces re-launched their campaign for 'entitlement reform'—a euphemism for whacking Social Social Security benefits, Medicare and Medicaid" (Greider).

This is essential raw material for a radical rebellion, one where citizens and workers move from "watching" to demanding and acting in ways too "dangerous to ignore." Happily enough, there is left-progressive potential in the confrontation between Obama's progressive-sounding rhetoric and his corporate and imperial commitments. The popular resentment and hopes he rode to power need more genuinely democratic and effective solutions than an Obama (or a Hillary Clinton) presidency could have been realistically expected to provide. Obama and other Democrats have been riding a wave of citizen anger and excitement that goes beyond their conservative worldview and agenda. They have done their best to contain and co-opt that popular and progressive energy, but their lofty political rhetoric seeks to safely channel popular expectations that may well transcend the political class's capacity for top-down management and control.



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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 02:10 PM
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11. Interesting...
And many still say that FDR saved the capitalist system.
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:35 PM
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7. Excellent post. Good points.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:38 PM
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8. To use an old phrase....RIGHT ON !!!!!
K&R! Thanks for the hopeful post. I am done with doom and gloom!!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:45 PM
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9. knowledgeable people are a threat to the politicians
They're still trying to control the message and it isn't working anymore. All because of the internet. It was bound to change the whole game, and we're just beginning to see the changes.

I think things will change as drastically and unexpectedly as they did during the other big revolutions. The Industrial Revolution changed the entire world. The invention of the car changed the world. Radio changed the world. TV changed the world and now the Internet is changing the world. All these changes were profound and mostly unforeseen.

It's kind of exciting and scary at the same time.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 02:20 PM
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12. K&R
Yes!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 06:56 PM
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13. K&R
:kick:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 07:36 PM
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14. You are 100% correct.
A zeitgeist change.
Power to the people.
We will be a real democracy at last.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 07:39 PM
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15. They are gonna get slammed this year, next, all the way through 2012
They ain't gonna beat Obama - they should run R.Paul, and look to end Prohibition. That would be a rebrand fo'sho.
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