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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:13 AM
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If you ever want to know how conservative's view us
There is a perfect article on what conservatives actually think of us liberals/progressives.

Its actually quite humorous, it be hilarious if so many of these knuckle draggers didn't believe it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/what_the_progressives_want.html


Basically the summation is we only care about growing government, we don't really want better lives for people.

If you have a conservative friend, this is probably what they think of you.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:18 AM
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1. Well, that was delusional
and pretty god damn funny.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:28 AM
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2. This is what some liberals who are not totally against
socialism believe. I tell my ultra conservative relative to give up his social security and medicaid... when he is woo wooing about someone getting something they "didn't work for".


http://briansblog.votebrianmoore.com/2009/05/benefits-of-socialism-letter-in-tampa-tribune/

Under socialism, it is not the government that takes care of its populace, but it is his/her fellow citizens and co-workers who create the policies and conditions for its community and working environment. It is they who establish local criteria through local independent boards, commissions and councils, acting in a democratic fashion. It is the people who have the authority, the ownership and control of the communities and their workplaces, and not the government nor a small group of executives or military brass, which is the case under the economic systems of both authoritarian capitalism and communism.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:29 AM
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3. Not much thinking going on at the American Thinker, huh?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:46 AM
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4. I started to argue against his points.
But I came to the conclusion he was projecting his own thoughts about caring, and using unfounded assumptions in his arguments.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:28 AM
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10. They love to believe they are "rational", love the idea of arguments
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:30 AM by old mark
to convert the brainless "Dumocrats" (also "demoncrats", depending on the variety of idiot) to the Conservative way of "thought". They believe seriously we have no idea of America, no love of country or pride in it, and are nothing but negative.

Yet who is the Party of NO?

Arguing with one of these is frustrating and pointless - they have no real positions, just a bunch of slogans.
The point of bipartisanship, to me, is that we can always sat, well, we offered them a chance and they refused, and the fact that every time the GOP opens its mouth, it looks worse than it did before - they can notr do anything right.

mark
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:58 AM
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5. This is why the "bipartisans" are so far off base
This is not a traditional Dem/Puke conflict between politicians in different parties. This IS about the so-called "principled" opposition to anything that works for the benefit of the ordinary Joe and Jane American.

Do they really beleive this crap or is it just posturing? Our national leadership seems to think the cards fall on the posturing side of the table. WHat they don't seem to "get" is that the people they are talking to are other Beltway-ers, not the folks behind them who actually call the tune$ on the right.

You look at people like Jerk the Plumber or the wolf killing governor from ALaska, and think they are just putting on an act for political reasons. What progressives seem to find so hard to beleive is that the people those clowns are playing up to really DO beleive this stuff and they do not compromise. I've known these right-wing types since I was in high school, five decades ago, whether they were YAF-ers, or Birchers, of followers of Fred Schwarze's Christian Anti-Communist Crusade (does anyone around here remember None Dare Call It Treason?), and they and their descendants have always held true to their core beleifs, no matter how lunatic or over the top.

Why do we think anything will be different now that one of their worst nightmares--a black man in the WHite House whose job is not carrying a tray at ceremonial functions--has come true?

It ain't necessarily so, folks. The right-wing hates us as much as the Spartacists hate them, and that is a whole lot. If there is any reason to hope the Patriot Act and the other repressive, undemocratic abuses created by the Bushoids stay around it is because of these right-wingers who are often only a credit card and a truck full of manure away from another Oklahoma City.

Should we be afraid? Damn skippy, bube, and not afraid of Al QUeda or any of those types. It is the people who are already here, the people always ready with torches and lynching ropes that scare the hell out of me.

Just saying...
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:12 AM
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7. Agreed
A lot of us believe we won the war with Obama. These fuckers are going back to what they did during Clinton. I fully expect some of them to attack their own country.

If this happens we need to wrap those people around Beck, Limbaugh, and Hannity like a millstone.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:08 AM
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6. The only part that isn't funny is the author's name
Carol Negro. Reads more like Karl Rove.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:16 AM
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8. That was just about the dumbest thing I've ever read.
I want that 10 minutes of my life back...
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wcast Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:28 AM
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9. The sad truth is that there are many who believe this
I live in rural PA, at the top of the famous T, and believe me, the adage of Pittsburgh in the West, Philadelphia in the east, and Alabama in the middle, holds true. I am a school teacher, and it never fails to amaze me how many of my colleagues believe the type of nonsense listed in the article. Logic, facts, and reason, never seem to matter. They believe that Glenn Beck really makes sense, and that the end times are coming. All after a little more than 100 days in office.

When GWB was in office, they felt he could do no wrong. After 2004, though, many saw the light of how W had screwed us over. Their response, stop talking about him, or say, yes, both parties made mistakes. No personal ownership. Many of these people, and again, many of the ones I know are college educated, now believe that the government is going to take us over. Guns will be taken and how will we be able to fight. It's Red Dawn all over again.

It all boils down to belief vs. facts. As one friend of mine responded when I argued with him that people were born gay, "I can't believe that." He didn't say that my facts were incorrect, but he couldn't personally believe that as it went against his belief structure. That is what were are fighting, a mindset, beliefs, and fear. Obama inspires fear in a lot of these people, and it's not because of what he's done, but the fact that if he is successful, these people will find out that the foundation that their beliefs have been built on is shifting sand, and when it crumbles, they will not know how to pick up the pieces.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:36 AM
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11. And every issue the writer brought up
conservative's answer is 'more tax cuts'.
Seems to me all, and I do mean all, conservative pundits are mind readers. Everyone of them tell us what liberals are thinking and their desires.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:58 AM
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12. Welcome to DU!
The hypocrisy of the party of "personal responsibility" never ceases to amaze me. They are the first to tell the poor that they need to take responsibility for their poverty and misfortune, but they refuse to even take responsibility for their own votes and the actions of the people they put into office.

Utterly revolting.

:dem:

-Laelth

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