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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:08 AM
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CNN just ran the following caption: "RAGGING ON REPUBLICANS?"
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:39 AM by Orrex
Does that strike anyone else as creepily misogynistic? What next? Ejaculating on Educators, perhaps?


Mea Culpa! I have been made aware that my understanding of the etymology was incorrect. Please disregard!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5628010&mesg_id=5628122
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:15 AM
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1. They are trying to say Wanda was "on the rag"
Very SEXIST, if you ask me.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:18 AM
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2. I'm irked that the phrase was put on the screen without comment
As if it's part of today's accepted journalistic lexicon.

If they'd said "Mitch McConnell doesn't have the balls to filibuster Obama's judicial nominee," do you suppose it would have been passed over as smoothly?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:22 AM
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5. Oh please, this is absurd. The term "ragging on" has been applied to both sexes and I guarantee
only a minuscule number of human beings would EVER leap to such a thought.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:25 AM
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10. But they put "SEXIST" in all caps, so they must have a really good point.
:P
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:25 AM
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11. You really don't know how the corporate media plays these games
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:31 AM by itsrobert
Oh well.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:20 AM
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3. Fuck CNN!
They had the caption hanging out with Pols, celebrities. UGH Every white house press dinner has comedians. Even with Bush.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:20 AM
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4. to suggest that "ragging on" someone infers only a woman is so stupid, it numbs the mind.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:52 AM
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26. I figured I'd scan the replies before I wrote my own...
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:53 AM by Catch22Dem
Just in case someone else said exactly what I was thinking. Yours wins. :D

This is easily the dumbest post of the day.

ON EDIT: Yours isn't the dumbest post of the day...the OP's is. Sorry about that. ;)
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:54 AM
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27. Way to join the party after it's over
If you'd actually scanned the replies or even the OP, you'd see that I've recognized my error and recanted several times over.


Thanks for your contribution, though.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 02:33 PM
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32. You're welcome
;)
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:22 AM
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6. So, exposing repug corruption is "ragging" while Dems get (pseudo)serious investigations..
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:24 AM by Mika
.. over a BJ and other fake shenanigans (like the haircuts, clothes, exposed arms, etc).

:mad:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:31 AM
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17. according to CNN....Republicans are so vulnerable and misunderstood
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:23 AM
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7. how is that misogynistic?
it means teasing, tormenting, or picking on. How is it sexual? :shrug:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:26 AM
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12. My understanding is that it derives from "on the rag"
And that phrase, when applied to someone else, is invariably used to ridicule or diminish.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:36 AM
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18. no, it doesn't
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:38 AM by realisticphish
according to merriam websters, its etymology is unknown, but the first reference is in 1739. Another etymology site has this entry:

rag (v.)
"scold," 1739, of unknown origin; perhaps related to Dan. dialectal rag "grudge."

And yeah, it's used to ridicule. But there is no known gender reference to it at all.

refs:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=r&p=1
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ragging
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:39 AM
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21. Yep. And it's origin is British ("R.A.G. weeks" - Raising And Giving)
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:40 AM by dem629
"ragging on" came from the pranks and hazing done on students as they went about their charitable fundraising.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:24 AM
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8. It does if you're looking for something to complain about.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:27 AM
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13. Self-delete
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:41 AM by Orrex
Of a post that was pointlessly argumentative.

Is there a self-admonishing smiley, by any chance?
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:30 AM
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15. Slow day, huh?
You either are desperately looking for something to be "offended" by, or you are willfully clueless about the term you're talking about.

It is derived from British "rag week." Look it up and learn something. I know that's not as fun as manufacturing outrage, but oh well.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:42 AM
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24. Oops. Pardon me while I back off and slink away to hide my embarrassment
:hide:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:25 AM
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9. Don't that just put the rag on the bush?
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:25 AM by TahitiNut
(Clue: "Ragging on" is a slang idiom unrelated to the idioms of "on the rag" or "rag on the bush.")

Next up: "niggardly"?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:31 AM
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16. Post your source, and I'll recant
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:37 AM
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19. see post #18
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:40 AM
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22. Fair enough. See post #20
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:41 AM
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23. cool nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:57 AM
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28. My 'source' is 65 years on the planet, but if you want a link, then here ...
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/ragging+on
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:04 AM
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30. Yeah, that's actually the one the I found via teh Google
:blush:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:27 AM
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14. My republican ex claims...
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:27 AM by liberalmuse
that poor Bush was the one who got the shaft (gotta use sexual innuendo when referring to 'pubs, apparently) from the MSM and President Obama and the Democrats are the ones getting a free pass. I just don't even know where to fucking start with that one. If the 'pubs wouldn't give the comedians and sane people so much material, maybe they wouldn't be "ragged" on, and perhaps someone should remind the 'pubs it was a ROAST, for Pete's sake. :eyes:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:37 AM
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20. Whoops!
Edited on Sun May-10-09 09:45 AM by Orrex
It appears that I was in error, and the phrase is not, in fact, derived from the menstruation-based insult, though I have previously read arguments to that effect.


My thanks to TahitiNut, dem629, and realisticphish for pointing out my error without being assholes about it. :hi:
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:43 AM
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25. Either way the media has no sense of humor
Even had the caption hanging out with pols, celebrities. Every f'in white house press dinner has a comedian. Stephen Colbert, David Lettermen are an example of 2 during Bush's tenure.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:00 AM
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29. Kewl.
:hi:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:08 AM
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31. I've never heard the word "ragging" used in a sexist way.
Edited on Sun May-10-09 10:08 AM by Marr
I've always heard the word applied to both sexes.
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