Is it really too early to judge the Presidency of Barack Obama?

Granted, he has done some very good things already in his first 100 days. But, there are a lot of problems that he is still working on and which a lot of his supporters do not agree with the way he is handling them. For example, the crisis with the banks has not been solved. Neither have the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said he would close Guantanamo but, so far, it hasn't happened.

Has he really had time to solve these problems? Will they ever be solved? Not to mention the umemployment issue, which will take over page one once it hits double digits, probably later this fall?
There is a lot on the platter for this President. Is it too early to make judgements?

takes responsibility. It's nice to have someone say that they were wrong, when they are wrong and apologize for it. I was just watching him crack jokes from the dinner last night and it is so nice to see a great personality once again, instead of GW Bush the A**hole.

And I heard Robert Reich say this morning that he did not believe Barack Obama had a vain bone in his body and that he had a serenity about him that was so unusual for Washington...

about losing his cool?

It was so cool...........

already than many Presidents ever have. Here is a partial list of items that I am greatful to Obama for already:

Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay military detention facility and established a task force to review the cases of the more than 200 detainees held there.

Closed CIA interrogation facilities around the world.

Stopped torture.

Set a fixed timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq.

Lifted the Bush restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research.

Lifted the Bush restrictions on federal aid to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information.

Lifed restrictions for Cuban Americans seeking to travel more frequently to Cuba.

Included college affordability in the stimulus bill and signed an expansion of national service into law.

Increased the Pell Grant program by 8.5 billion (a 50% increase).

Expanded Americorps from 75,000 to 250,000 annual slots and created a new "clean energy corps".

Sucessfully rescued US captain from Somali pirates

With his bi-partisan approach has effectively made the Republican party, the party of no.

Shut the revolving door between the lobbying world and the federal government.

Changed the law to make it easier for those suing employers because of alleged pay discrimination.

Signed the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), keeping a campaign pledge but breaking another one at the same time.

Stopped raids of state Medical Marijuana dispensiaries.

Slowed if not halted the downward economic spiral.

Courted Specter and got him to change parties.

Stopped TARP recipients from issuing outrageous bonuses.

And he is currently working on:

Health care reform

Allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_military_gays_1

Credit card legislation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090509/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_credit_cards_10

without reading the articles.

and it will be. And there is no need to be snide in your replies. Civil discourse is a good thing.

I am willing to give him time. My point is that it is too early to judge his presidency.
He has back-peddled on a number of promises, so words and orders -- until fulfilled mean nothing to me.

He may not accomplish everything as fast as he had hoped but I don't think he has actually back-peddled. We should also remember that he is now privy to more information than he had before becoming President. And he has actually accomplished quite a bit. When and if I feel he has actually forsaken us, I will be happy to call him on it but until then I plan to enjoy having an intelligent, thoughtful President who is making strides on important issues even if he hasn't gotten around to fixing everything yet.

were so microscopically evaluated and judged after four months in office?

Where was Fuckface in May of 2001?

JFK in May of 1961?

No one has ever been subjected to this kind of scrutiny and judgment, but then, no one has ever had the full force of the twenty-first century Internet(s) tubes and all the resultant technology turned on them. It's his blessing and his curse.

I seriously doubt, though, that any of this is troubling Obama. He's got plenty to keep him busy, and, while we're at it, as you mentioned, what President has taken office with this colossal mess - on all fronts - awaiting him?

Cleaning up Chimpy Fucknuts' mess is, I think, impossible, and I honestly believe nothing will save us, but Obama's doing the best, I truly hope, that can be done.

Yes, it's too early. We have seen him do some great things - stem cell, for instance - but we don't have any big-time results yet, so time will tell. Until then, the flapping lips will continue because there's something about Obama that just drives them nuts........

That scares them more than anything.

he was ignoring the first real warnings about Bin Laden going to attack the USA with airliners!!
And never sent state dept warnings to American airline crew memebers..of which i was one then.

No it is not too early..we must always be vigilant of our employees...and Obama and his entire staff are our employees..i pay their damn salaries..and i sure as hell will have my say..good and bad!It's my job as a citizen!

They hold people's lives in their hands!

Having your say is always there, and no one has suggested that you couldn't.

It's just a big waste of time, in my opinion, going nuclear on anything just yet. Perspective is needed to know what is going on, and we're not in positions to know the minutiae of all that the President has to do.

Trust is part of it, and I trust Obama.

and got two of my neighbors kids killed in the world trade center by my airline's aircraft..and got people in my hometown killed the most killed on 9/11..i trust no one and never will ever again..you can if you want..that is your perogative..mine is to verify everything and to be ever vigilant.

The stage was set by Bush in his earliest days for 9/11 to happen..you can have your opinion of how it came about and why..but the stage was set early in his administration.

As i sit here today..we still have had Habeas Corpus stolen from us..I have stood with my son where the Magna Carta was signed and know how and why Habeas came about..it is still stolen from us today with nothing showing me it will be restored anytime soon!

Our phones are still wiretapped and our emails read ..i don't see that changing anytime soon..from the looks of how this administration has spoken about it...or not.

I still see jobs going out of this country while 600,000 + a month lose there jobs and their health care and feeding their children and keeping a roof over their heads at risk..and then i see this shit.....

I posted this March 31st.2009


Geithner..who worked for Kissinger and the CFR

Geithner..who's papa Peter F.Geithner was with the Ford Foundation and Obama's mom just happened to work with him!!

Any wonder why the GM CEO was made to step down..the very day that Ford announced it was opening a plant in Mexico..the znnouncement took place at the Pres of Mexico's palace..and do not miss the very fact that the CEO of Ford said : Mr Mullaly said: "We are convinced the geographic location as well as Mexico's highly qualified labour force and economic stability make this decision the right one for our business."

That would be 4,500 jobs Americans will not get!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/742895 ...


Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once

Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.


Posted by flyarm in General Discussion
Tue Mar 31st 2009, 03:37 PM
ahhh this ought to warm a few of the hearts of US Union workers!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/742895 ...

Ford to open new plant in Mexico


US giant Ford is to invest $3bn (£1.5bn) in a new car plant in Mexico, the biggest investment in the country's manufacturing sector.

The move is a blow to American car workers who had hoped the factory would be built in the United States.

Ford has lost more than $15bn (£7.5bn) over the past two years and says the new facility is crucial to its future.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon hailed the announcement as a "turning point" for his country.

The new factory, and other changes to Ford's Mexican operations, are likely to create an estimated 4,500 jobs in Mexico, where car workers earn substantially less than their American counterparts.

Mr Calderon made the announcement with Ford president Alan Mullaly at the presidential compound in Mexico City on Friday. "We want Mexico to be an automotive country, one that is competitive and with the most advantages so that the worldwide automotive industry will establish itself here," Mr Calderon said.

Mr Mullaly said: "We are convinced the geographic location as well as Mexico's highly qualified labour force and economic stability make this decision the right one for our business."

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I see American Union workers and those at the bottom of the rungs still getting fuckede in everyway..while CEO's get bonus;s with our god damned tax dollars!!!!!!!!

so lets keep fucking the little guy and stay quiet about it right???????????It is way to early to say a thing ..right????????





Obama threatens to rescind stimulus money over wage cuts
By Evan Halper, LA Times
The Obama administration is threatening to rescind billions of dollars in federal stimulus money if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers approved in February as part of the budget. Schwarzenegger's office was advised this week by federal health officials that the wage reduction, which will save California $74 million, violates provisions of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Failure to revoke the scheduled wage cut before it takes effect July 1 could cost California $6.8 billion in stimulus money, according to state officials. The news comes as state lawmakers are already facing a severe cash crisis, with the state at risk of running out of money in July. The wages at issue involve workers who care for some 440,000 low-income disabled and elderly Californians. The workers, who collectively contribute millions of dollars in dues each month to the influential Service Employees International Union and the United Domestic Workers, will see the state's contribution to their wages cut from a maximum of $12.10 per hour to a maximum of $10.10.


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I see the CIA getting a free ride on torture ...


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i see my kids and my kids kids getting strapped in debt that has never been seen in this country ..ever!!!!!!!

but i should stay quiet because it is too early????????

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I see currently..the Army setting up experiment centers...called... Army Experience Center..in our neighborhoods to recruit children with video games and bullshit that is brainwashing.

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I am told This administration will get us out of Iraq..but then 21,000 soldiers are being sent to Afganistan..then we hear that we will have 70,000 troops in Iraq for 15 -20 years more..but low and behold i should stay quiet about it.

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then i read this ..and i feel sicker by the minute..but i shouldn't i am told because it is too early...........

Read more about it at Emptywheel!!

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/obama-to-git-mo-better-military-tribunals/#more-4091

Obama To Git-Mo Better Military Tribunals
By: bmaz Saturday May 9, 2009 11:41 am


The GOP squeals and Obama greases their detainee wheel. On May 1st, the New York Times warned that President Obama was contemplating reinstating the tyrannical Bush/Cheney military tribunals for Gitmo detainees.

Yes, the same Barack Obama that forcefully pronounced to the American public during the election:


By any measure our system of trying detainees has been an enormous failure,

Not to mention declaring that as President he would:


reject the Military Commissions Act.

That was then, this is now. And now, today, it is seems nearly confirmed that military commissions will be back. From Peter Finn at the Washington Post:

The Obama administration is preparing to revive the system of military commissions established at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, under new rules that would offer terrorism suspects greater legal protections, government officials said.

The rules would block the use of evidence obtained from coercive interrogations, tighten the admissibility of hearsay testimony and allow detainees greater freedom to choose their attorneys, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
...
Officials said yesterday that the Obama administration will seek a 90-day extension of the suspension as early as next week. It would subsequently restart the commissions on American soil, probably at military bases, according to a lawyer briefed on the plan.

To be clear, the Administration indicates that Obama has not given the final sign off on the plan, and the ACLU has already sworn to fight any such plan. One thing is for certain, however, Obama is not contemplating this move in order to give the detainees so tried the equivalent level of due process and justice that would be afforded by American courts, else he would simply use American courts as he stated was his intention while campaigning for votes.

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over a trillion sent to Bankers and wall street ..but Mortgage Assistance for Citizens gets killed

http://agonist.org/michael_collins/20090501/throw_the_bums_out_all_of_them_senate_millionaires_kill_mortgage_assistance_for_citizens
The final vote was 45 in favor, 51 opposed to Senator Richard Durbin's (D-IL) mortgage assistance bill. The original version of the bill covered some but not all of those requiring assistance. The final version was even more restricted. It applied to only homeowners currently in foreclosure as a result of actions prior to the start of 2009.

The denial of assistance to citizens by Senators is ironic given the fact that the origins of the current economic crisis came from Senate legislative actions in 1999 and 2000.


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but shhhhhhhhhhhhh it is way to early to get angry or concerned.....

I don't know what it was about since I quit reading it very quickly, but keep in mind that it was not TRUST that got us 9/11 - it was incompetence, arrogance, and hidden agendae.........................

several months..why????.. some were tired of the fight for the white house, many were exhusted, many were told they were whinners, many were told to shut up it was too soon to say anything..same shit going on today..just a different day.

I trust none of them.

And i have damn good reason not to.

3000 of them

Over 4000 American Soldiers dead..reason not to trust..

Thousands upon thousands of dead Iraqi's reason not to trust.

Torture known by both parties reason not to trust.

it is endless.

the fault lay in the White House, in the FAA, in the CIA, in the sloppiness of the thugs in the Oval Office. It cannot be laid off on the voter, or on the Democrats who had no access to the information that provided routinely to the "Administration."

I'm sorry you're so upset about the losses. And if you don't trust your leaders, well, no wonder you're so raving about all of this. I hope you find some comfort in this catharsis.............

not to trust the White House of either party...understand , I am a mother ..it is Mothers day ..what fucking kind of Mother would even attempt to justify this ..done to children..tell me will ya??????????

Tell me how i sleep tonight feeling better than i did under bush?????????????

during Vietnam war we called white phosphorous = napalm

Bush used "internationally reviled" napalm-type firebombs in Iraq.

Now Obama has used white phosphorous as well...in Afganistan...should we stay quiet about that too????????


http://www.commondreams.org/further/2009/05/09

05.09.09 - 11:18 AM
The Victims
More horrors from Afghanistan, where we should not be. The first known civilian casualties of phosphorous use, which is illegal, are 8-year-old Razia and her family.

"The kids called out to me that I was burning..." said her father Aziz Rahman. "And then my wife screamed 'the kids are burning' and she was also burning."

see this for casualties links;

EXCLUSIVE - Afghan girl's burns show horror of chemical strike
... the air and can stick to and even penetrate flesh as it burns. ... The Afghan government, military specialists and experts on the Taliban told Reuters ...
May 08, 2009
EXCLUSIVE-Afghan girl's burns show horror of chemical strike
... the air and can stick to and even penetrate flesh as it burns. ... The Afghan government, military specialists and experts on the Taliban told Reuters ...
May 08, 2009
EXCLUSIVE - Afghan girl's burns show horror of chemical strike
... Zaher Murad, an Afghan Defence Ministry spokesman, said the government was not aware ... confirmed she was hit by white phosphorous and had burns to 40 ...
May 08, 2009

YES HE IS!!!

We're not talking about CSI, where everything is solved in one hour with commercial interruptions. And it's not an "all or nothing" exercise.

I'm pleased with some of the things he's done, I'm displeased with some of the things he's failed to do, but he's not obligated to do anything on my timetable, and I don't have access to the info he does, so I'm not in a position to judge.

My feeling is that if I'm concerned about something, I have a responsibility to make my concerns known to my elected reps, both in Congress and the Obama Admin; otherwise, I'm willing to take a "wait and see attitude".

I sometimes wish that we could add a big healthy dose of "patience" to the drinking water in this country. And the MSM should be forced to take a double dose.

he was left with one of the biggest F***ups in history to try and sort out. But when he does make a mistake, at least he is man enough to admit it, apologize and move on to rectify it.

Was May 1861 really too early to assess Lincoln's Presidency? Was May 2001 really too early to assess the Presidency of George W. Bush?

doesn't mean we cannot critique progress along the way.

While I feel it's too early to "judge" his presidency, mostly
because he hasn't completed a term yet .

I do not think it's to early to criticize his decisions
though .

:hi:

While we can praise or be critical of his performance now, it'll be up to future generations to judge his administration. We simply are not privy to all the information.