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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:23 PM Original message |
Literally a matter of life and death!! |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Clinton rigged the reporting numbers to minimize |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
95. Umm, Those Numbers Got Rigged. . . . |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #95 |
101. There was no COLA... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
100. I have a big problem... |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Back then AARP wasn't yet a full |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yes, you are right about that!! n/t |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. AARP was started to sell discounted insurance to seniors |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Of course you're exactly right. People will suffer and die. BUT, this isn't a "progressive" |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. It amazes me... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Are you done? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. No!! Are you? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. you prove the point |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Exactly. Defending a label rather than the people they supposedly care about. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. These are not... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. You are answering because YOU are one of those being hurt, and your voice matters. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. You are so right... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. You and me both.The fact that folks will defend a label as opposed to people hurts |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Thank you, saracat! I can't truthfully say I'm not "beaten down" by it.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. thank you for showing EXACTLY what passes for "progressiveism" now. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Are you the one in charge? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time getting upset about this. First off, you're a little off on |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You must be... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Not exactly right:: there was a 1.3% increase in 1987 because the CPI |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. The law at the time... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. the difference was that there really was inflation in 1985-86 |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. So the law could be changed again n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. and what should the revised law provide? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Change the items used... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. which items should it exclude? the price of gas? eggs? milk? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. You are wrong... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. No, I'm not |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I do not know... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I shop and prices have not risen significantly compared to a year ago |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Do you know what a "significantly" is when you're out of money at the end of EVERY month? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I don't what your source of information is, but you need a new one cause you are wrong |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. You're all heart, aren't you? Try reading Barbara Ehrenreich, rather than being so |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I'm the only one here using facts to make the case for a fairer COLA approach |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I believe her facts are correct... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. well the objective evidence I presented proves otherwise. sorry |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I still do not see... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I'll try again. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Another thing... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. fine. how do you propose changing it so that social security recipients get more |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Yes, "objective" in being soooo superior. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Y'know, I never thought I'd see this much hostility on DU to factual information |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I'm sorry if you think... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:37 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I"m sorry you keep putting words in my mouth |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #94 |
103. I agree... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #82 |
123. The hostility comes from your end. And I do mean end. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I really do appreciate your compassion, and your outstanding understanding of others. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. I'm sorry, I must have missed the source you gave for the claim housing isn't in the CPI-W |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 04:30 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Like I said before... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Again, I don't know where you got the idea that my desire to improve the COLA |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Well I agree that it is seriously flawed... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #98 |
105. how many times do I have to show the actual information to convince you |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. There are words in there like... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. you can't be this obtuse -- its not my "interpretation" |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. And which is the better approach? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. The best approach is to contact members and staff and make a well-informed argument |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. It also works to put a scare in them n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. right now I imagine they are more scared of ss becoming insolvent |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. They have been talking about that for decades n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. talking about what for decades? reforming the COLA calculation? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. No, SS reform n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Did you read the link you posted below? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. I did read the link |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. It is a solution... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. I don't want a solution? Are you incapable of reading? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. Your the piece of work... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Stop posting to you. Start making sense and I'll stop. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. You simply have no compassion... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #113 |
124. Gee, we just never thought of that. It's really good that much more intelligent person has come |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. if you think Social Security reform can get enacted without AARPs support |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. But do you really want it fixed? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. apparently more than you do |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Politically viable... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. and that's a bad thing? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. I see nothing there to back up your point n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Of course you do know... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You have a link for that claim? Cause I think you're wrong about that |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I am looking... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. see post 64 |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Eggs are cheaper? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Would actually considering how many people on these programs go hungry, go without medicine and |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Exactly right. There isn't Political Will. THAT'S what we've been saying. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The raise was recieved in 1987... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. So I guess you don't shop for groceries. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. "Whose side is we on?" I think the poster is pretty clear... it certainly isn't the side |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
97. I'm on the side of those who want to fix COLA, not just complain about it |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. $24... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Wow, where does she live? Here are today's prices for those items here: |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. I forgot the butter n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:51 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. How do you plan on fixing it? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. it is indeed what I've been doing -- and with a specific suggestion |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. I am doing the same... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. Neither does onenote. (Boy, what an apt name!) We're just weird because |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. then don't |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. Is there anything having to do with poverty that you DON'T have a hard time being upset about? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
109. Yes, states that reduce there food assistance programs, homeless shelters, places that |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. it will actually mean that most recipients will get a SMALLER monthly check next year. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R! |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. SS recipients are some of the most vulnerable. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I'll be calling mine. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Thank you Julie!! |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
81. And another kick! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. important K&R ! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. trillions for banksters, nothing for the proles. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Exactly! So, please make some calls and raise a fuss! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. already did. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Mahalo! We need to know there are folks behind us. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'm going to call my congress critters |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Thank you! If only some of the naysayers would do the same! |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. I was relieved when I read that there'd be no COLA till 2012 at the earliest.... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. Really important stuff here, dajoki...K&R nt |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Thank you Mary!! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. Anytime Dajoki! Kick!! |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thank you for this information. Here's the crime of it all: |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Thank you dem629!! |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
84. COLA is not being cut |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. if there's no COLA increase- does that also mean there won't be an increase in cost of medicare..? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. What I read was... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
85. yep. here is a link with some more info on this |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #85 |
120. Here is the answer, right in your link |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. Poverty in this country |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Thank you QueenOfCalifornia!! |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
79. K&R |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
86. K & R. |
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87. KnR for greater visibility. n/t |
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88. We need annual COLA increases |
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93. That is exactly... |
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89. I think Obama needs to address this, at the very least |
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92. Welcome to DU lbrtbell... |
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116. K&R... |
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118. I'm glad for your mother... |
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131. K&R |
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