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kentuck

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Tue May-12-09 10:26 AM
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Stark Reality.

The economy will never return to where it was before the banks collapsed. It was an economy built on sand. Many of our jobs have left the country, never to return. There are not enough jobs to go around in this country. We need to realize that times will never be the same. We need to prepare ourselves for a new reality.

How do we provide enough work for our people to survive? How do we provide affordable shelter? How do we allocate the food supplies so that our people do not go hungry? These are basic questions we will be asking in the near future.

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ixion

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Tue May-12-09 10:34 AM
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1. yep

Many people haven't accepted this yet, but it will become clear soon enough.

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area51

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Tue May-12-09 10:48 AM
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2. This is what I fear.

We've been overpopulated for quite some time, and with businesses offshoring/inshoring jobs, there simply aren't enough jobs to go around. It would definitely help, though, to stop our wars of choice, offer training in healthcare to soldiers coming home, and start the transition to single-payer. There could be new businesses starting up if people didn't need to worry about healthcare.

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kentuck

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Tue May-12-09 11:05 AM
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3. I agree that healthcare is the area where a lot of jobs could be created

We need to train more nurses. We should pay for their education.

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immoderate

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Tue May-12-09 12:13 PM
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4. It's not about jobs or providing work.

There is not enough meaningful work to go around. Creating jobs means creating more garbage and pollution. 150 years ago, 99 of 100 people worked on farms, and civilization was thriving. Now, because of automation and technology, 1 in 100 works on a farm, and we need to purpose the other 98.

One place you can read more about is Roy Fischler's page on automation socialism. Roy is an acquaintance of mine, and we found we had this common interest in the nature of work.

The real problem is whether we can depopulate the planet before we make it unfit for all life.

--imm

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