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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:55 AM
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US: Cuts in Social Security, Medicare to pay for bank bailouts
By Tom Eley
14 May 2009

A government report made public Tuesday indicates that Social Security and Medicare will deplete their trust funds more quickly than previously forecast. This has sparked new demands from within the US financial elite for substantial cuts in the two entitlement programs...

...All told, between direct cash infusions, loans, and guarantees on debt, Washington has handed over around $10 trillion to Wall Street in less than a year.

In comparison, Medicare would need $13 trillion and Social Security $5 trillion *over the next 75 years* to remain solvent, according to the report.

In other words, retirement benefits and healthcare benefits for several generations of the elderly could be secured at the cost of one year’s bailout of the financial aristocracy.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/ssmd-m14.shtml
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:18 AM
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1. Are they saying that out loud?
"new demands from within the US financial elite" ... :wtf: It's not their decision! Is it?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:32 AM
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3. Unfortunately, it probably is. Goldman Sachs staffs the Treasury Dept.
Obama has installed a revolving door between Goldman Sachs and his administration. x(

He is giving the banks everything they ask for, so I'll bet their lobbyists are writing his agenda. If they want him to make these cuts then I bet it's on the agenda again. :(

Meanwhile, Obama is INCREASING the military budget. We already spend more than every other nation in the world combined. We don't seem to be leaving Iraq or Afghanistan. We're pumping trillions into the banks.

Services for the elderly and poor are the only things that are left for him to try to cut.

I don't think Obama is going to actually risk the anger of retirees. I don't think he'll chop Social Security or Medicaid. But I bet it gets a lot of discussion in his Treasury Department before getting shot down.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:47 AM
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12. Shhh. Quiet. He's playing chess. Look, a puppy. Awwww. Cute.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:29 AM
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16. lol... that about sums it up. I can't think of anything to add...
feel the power of change... stick your finger into a wall outlet.. feel the power..
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:44 AM
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4. They own the country & the politicians. If people don't fight, they get exactly what they want.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:14 AM
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14. Scorched earth?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:26 AM
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2. This may be the "transparancy" we were told to expect - the truth
about what is really important to Congress - their lobbyists.(read - their money supply.)

Politicians are scum, no matter what party they are affiliated with.

mark
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:07 AM
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5. No, I Don't Think so. Nice Try, though, Guys
We'd have a blood in the streets revolution first.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:31 AM
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6. are u kidding? they've been stealing from the trust fund for a long time now.
they can do that because people don't pay attention. people don't really want to know how it works, as long as it's there when they want it. remember how gore got laughed at because of his 'lock box' for social security. doesn't sound so funny right now, does it.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:48 AM
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9. This is Breaking the Contract, Not Embezzling the Funds
The govt. can tax the rich to pay social security--if it wants to.

But it CANNOT break the social contract. It daren't.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:28 AM
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15. Didn't we have a "Social Contract" not to Torture?
One thing you should have learned over the last Decade, Nothing is Sacred..
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:21 AM
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18. LOL--> "it CANNOT break the social contract. It daren't."
What part of this alleged "social contract" allows the government to shovel TRILLIONS to banks and foreign multi-national corporations while refusing to help homeowners and driving domestic industry into bankruptcy?

And what part of this alleged "social contract" says that the Boomers can leave their children and grandchildren as the first generations of Americans to experience a lower standard of living than their parents? Hmmmm? :hi:

"it CANNOT break the social contract. It daren't."

:rofl:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:33 AM
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7. Ha!...in this country? NEVER, no matter what the scandal
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:47 PM
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22. They have already stated that there will be no increases
for the coming two years.
That is the FIRST TIME EVER since the conception of SS to not have a COLA increase.
Where's the blood? I'll add mine. Sick of seeing poor old people starve.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:51 PM
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23. It Ain't Carved in Stone
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Badgerman Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:43 AM
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8. It won't cease til the goose is cooked and the last golden egg cracked open. n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:28 AM
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10. Stop the “Entitlement Crisis” Fear-Mongering
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:41 AM
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20. There is no crises. Correct. But Iraq didn't do 9/11 either.
Yet a majority of people were easily convinced that Iraq was behind it.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:32 AM
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11. It's another "trifecta"
Give banks tax money
Cut Social security to make up the loss
Cut Medicare to make up the loss

and in exchange, banks "promise" to "play nice", then just play nice with EACH OTHER...
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:59 AM
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13. And these fucking bullshit wars - full of DEATH and TORTURE - are costing us how much?
http://costofwar.com/

It's sick that OUR government will spend that kind of money on war, and the banks who got us into this mess, and not social security. They WILL NOT get away with this. :grr:
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:33 AM
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17. Social Security is the only program to consistently show a surplus
Edited on Thu May-14-09 08:33 AM by lib2DaBone
.. they skim off the surplus to the general fund.. to finance war, black ops we aren't allowed to know about and health care for CONgress members.

(CONgressional members have access to a level of health care that is unknown to the average American. It's a free ride for them.)
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:25 AM
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19. "Give us your poor" and elderly ...so we can rip them off.
Hey ...lets tax sick people too.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:45 AM
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21. Game over. NeoCons 1 People 0
This was what they told us they would do. They got bush elected and did it.

Payback is a bitch, and the people of this country are in for some payback for letting the oaf in office -TWICE!
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