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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:58 AM Original message |
That sound you just heard was Pelosi blowing the *blame her* points out of the water |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. they said it was not being used? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. No. She said it before. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
43. I know she said they didn't tell her it was being used |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. She has said at least 3 times now that they told her it WOULDN'T be used. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. From the horse's mouth, Karl Rove... |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
103. She was told everything was classified. She was damned either way. |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
104. personally, I suspect she didn't really care. delete for snarkiness. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. not good enough |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. You want to blame the ranking member of a commitee OVER the President and his administration? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I think they forgot the |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I'm being sarcastic |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Okay. Sorry. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Nah, it's understandable. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
53. "Prevent" or "permit"? ... eom |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. I believe her. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I do too |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I do, too.... |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. Why would anyone be surprised by the CIA lying to Dems |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. More accurately, the Cheney admin. |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Boner just now said he sees no reason the CIA would lie. He came this close to calling Nancy a liar. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. And then I would ask... why would anyone believe Boner? |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
74. It isn't just Boner |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. HOLY SMOKE! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. I fully expected all of that... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Ever heard of a bullfight? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yep... among all the disappointments... |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
7. Biggest smokescreen ever |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
12. Classification cannot compel someone to be silent in regards |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Had they impeached, this would have all been revealed. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I don't either |
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PearliePoo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
37. oh yeah...the pesky packets of powder. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
105. Recall ~ "Impeachment is off the table." |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. But don't we have to prove there were "illegal acts and crimes" |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
81. Torture is illegal in the United States by statute, treaty and Constitution. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. This is true, but to get this legitimized in a court of law we must prove |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. She is not an accomplice. Therefore, no legal challenges can be |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
93. It is agains the law to share classified information with people not authorized to see it |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. No, only that classification cannot justify an illegal and unconstitutional act |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. The law says otherwise |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. I'm not saying that its Nancy's fault. If we carry your argument |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. It's not an illogical conclusion they can do just that... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I would really like to see that stand up in court. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I would like to see CIA agents prosecuted for torture in a US court |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I would add that... |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. wish I could rec more than once |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. Glitch. n/t |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
98. What? nt |
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PearliePoo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
19. Like lamp shade...I believe her too. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. Cool! She's Calling Their Bluff!!! |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
25. If Pelosi is investigated, Cheney and all his GOP co-conspirators ... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. You know what is funny CW, if you look at this like a police investigation... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
65. Interesting. |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
28. Nancy Pelosi allowed the Bush admin to run rampant in order to win an election |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Wish you'd peedle the Republican Talking Point somewhere else. That's all you are doing |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
71. that would require a republican to admit "Bush ran rampant" |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. There's a whole herd of y'all here. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
29. Pelosi is so full of it. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. So you think Pelosi is as guilty as those that ordered torture and executed it? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Strawman |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. You are calling her a liar? What exactly can you prove she lied about? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. She's lying right now. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Hey, welcome to DU. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Thank you. nt |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. No she isn't |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Still don't buy it. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. "I see an obvious deflection of blame" Really? So looking into Bush/Cheney over Pelosi is a |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Haha. Come on. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Well, you realize that by lying to her they were breaking the law again? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Yes. Prosecute them. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Again, what are you specifically saying she lied about? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
72. She is quoted as saying that: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. How can you "know" something "to some extent". |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Way too 'black and white' of an argument. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. LOL... "she did know." "She at least had an idea." |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Enjoying what? |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Not a strawman at all. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #47 |
60. I'm for prosecutions. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. So tell me, within the law, what could Pelosi have done? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. They could have raised hell over it. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. . |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Exactly what? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Innocent? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Wouldn't that have raised warning bells? |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. "diversionary tactic" |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. bad link but yes that is what she said |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
80. And *shockingly* (cough, cough)... people here want to help them. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
77. I don't think you really understand the situation Democrats were in back in 2002. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. I expect more. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
30. Oh my, Ed Schultz is playing the audio clips of her statements |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
46. I have believed Pelos's side of this since it became an issue |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. That was a mother to type |
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PearliePoo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. yup...it had to be |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
87. You're more patient than I |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
56. K&R |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
63. one suggestion |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I used asterisks |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
73. "Congress passed legislation banning torture" |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. True. It was already illegal. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
76. Who will you believe? Dick Cheney, Karl Rove & their CIA toadies? |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. I will stick with Nance. She is not my fav Dem but I trust her over them |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
90. She took impeachment Off The Table |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
91. Here's how it's done |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
95. I do believe her wholeheartedly. Unfortunately for her, taking impeachment off the table |
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