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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:33 PM
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The torture photos did not come up at the Obama townhall meeting in NM
My own sense is that people who are struggling in this country (most of them anyway) are not overly preoccupied with when these pictures will be released. They have bigger fish to fry right now. Like paying the bills, finding and keeping a job, and keeping their homes. Notice that people at the town meeting asked questions about bread and butter issues.

This issue may be at the top of the radar screen for the Moveon.org/San Francisco penthouse crowd, but it's way down the list for most everybody else.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:34 PM
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1. ...
:popcorn:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:40 PM
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22. Hey, quite hogging!
:popcorn:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:37 PM
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2. the swipe at MoveOn.org and San Francisco sound too Republican
imho.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:38 PM
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3. yeah, WTF is up with that? -eom
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:44 PM
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7. I just keep
reading his sig line... It's a bit.... er-um.... welllllll... I guess I don't know what bluestateguy is doing here... never have understood it.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:38 PM
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4. To be fair, it is New Mexico
I can't tell you how it is today outside the cities, but damn. It used to be developing-world-rough out there. I did some service work several years ago, and it felt like the Peace Corps. :(
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:39 PM
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5. 40 more pictures. 40 pictures added to the stack.
Yeah, it sounds as if the good people of NM are not as obsessed with this shiny new toy as we are at DU.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:44 PM
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6. I think you are right in your assessment... (perhaps without
the Moveon comment)... Heck, it is way down on my list after: homelessness, mountaintop removal, health care, living wage, ending the war in Iraq, gay marriage, media ownership reform, prison reform, war on drugs, wind/solar power, food insecurity, changing the financing of public schools, fair housing, torture hearings...

Torture has supposedly ended... that remains the important concern. I would like to see hearings. Maybe, the release of the photos but in comparison to other issues, no.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:45 PM
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8. And that matters why???
Funny I don't belong to either of those groups, but I guess compared to the people at the townhall meeting, I can be concerned about more then my stomach or my wallet.

Did you say bread and butter or was that bread and circuses.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:49 PM
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9. "the Moveon.org/San Francisco penthouse crowd" ? Is that code for literate?
Or for people who won't trade liberty for security?

I forget.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:50 PM
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10. No it is code for loony left
but you are right it is code
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:54 PM
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13. It's code for people who have the luxury of not worrying about day to day survival
They can afford a Prius, and then they look down upon the rest of us as "wasteful pigs"; they have the luxury of shopping at expensive organic food stores, and then mock those of us who shop at regular grocery stores; they hate guns and gun-owners, but of course they have the luxury of living in crime-free communities or can otherwise afford armed private security.

I grew up with such people, and went to college with such people. I know their type well.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:59 PM
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17. I guess code is not dependent on reality then.
Because I can remember a time when people in the greater San Francisco area were homeless despite having jobs as police and teachers and firefighters.

Something about a bubble.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:50 PM
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26. Too bad those average, struggling folks don't realize that if they made a LOUD enough stink...
...re the deep seated, widespread corruption of this govt and its military/intel and its ghastly war crimes, it could serve to pressure the overarching corporate structure, likewise infected by an ethos of greed, that does plague their day to day existence.

In wanting to avoid the unpleasant realities of their empire, and/or via the typical 'stand by your man' authoritarian indoctrination, they're allowing a leveraging opportunity to slip by, and demonstrating to the rest of the world, horrified and outraged by America's Spreading Democracy, Inc, that they're oblivious to moral truth.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:51 PM
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11. "Good Americans stand with their president in a time of war?"
That's a fucking bushism if I ever heard one.

:puke:

RL
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:55 PM
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14. It's a joke. I refuse to use the sarcasm tag.
I expect people to just get it.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:59 PM
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16. It isn't funny
sarcasm is supposed to have some humor involved but your sig line is not funny... It is making you seem like a total idiot though.

Your comment about Move on is also not very funny.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:44 PM
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23. some blue dogs...
just have a hard time figuring out which party they belong to.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:10 PM
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20. Combined with you move-on and SF comment?
Makes you look like an idiot at best...

just sayin'

RL
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:51 PM
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12. He's obviously screening audiences because he's just like Bush
:crazy:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:56 PM
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15. Im the mother of a soldier Michigan Crowd
and I want the photos released.
Im sure the citizens of Germany didnt want to see the concentration camp photos either.
Tough shit.
release the truth.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:00 PM
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18. Who is
Michigan Crowd?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:01 PM
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19. that was in reference to the OP stating
san francisco crowd.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:17 PM
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21. It's well known that the working class doesn't trouble itself with moral issues.
Everybody knows their just a bunch ignorant proles who are only concerned about bowling balls and deer season.

Funny, my carpenter/longshoreman/socialist father actually read books, kept track of the news, and fought for human rights most of his life. And, that 2 bedroom house the 6 of us lived in didn't resemble any penthouses I never ran across.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:45 PM
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24. 'the Moveon.org/San Francisco penthouse crowd' - you can almost see venom dripping from your OP
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:46 PM
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25. The people are not supposed to worry about WHETHER the government will be transparent.
The government is SUPPOSED to be transparent.

You've proven an obstruction of freedom.
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