The Greatest Bait and Switch in History

Johnathon Turley:

"This Administration is becoming the greatest bait and switch in history."

Paraphrasing another point he made on the Rachel Maddow show:

By making the argument that anything that can embarass the US Government is a matter of national security, the Government can now effectively squelch ANY news it wants.

Thank you, Obama.

:sarcasm:

I meant, we have been down the same bait and switch road for the past 8 yrs...:)

There was never any serious indication that he would be anything but a big spending, far-Right, war-mongering, divisive asshole eager to destroy America's standing in the world.

In other words, I disagree.

That label was ridiculous from the outset, and I doubt it convinced anyone to vote for him who wasn't already going to vote for him anyway.

Granted, he flat out lied about some things (uniter not a divider, etc.) but that's not so much a bait-and-switch as a straightforward lie.

I was thinking in terms of the switch pulled on the middle, but you're right in that he fooled the Right! Somehow it doesn't sting as much when they get screwed.

Seriously?

Too bad.

And his cable media stardom.

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adhere to the constitution.. But he was at the University of Chicago.. and most of his students couldn't tell what party orientation he was. Even in law school he rose to the top by being very leveled and in the middle.

He is very middle road. He's not stupid, but he's also green.. and who knows how much we don't know about the secret govt he's trying to dismantle behind the scenes. They won't give in willingly.

The secrets, the signing statements, the wiretapping, the ability to wage war without Constitutional authority.

I dont like that, I dont condone that, this is the antithesis of the campaign Obama ran in 2008.

There are many times when I think back to the person I voted for and wonder where he went.

(oh, you were serious...sorry)

:blush:

accurately represent his thoughts, at least. Otherwise, why bother?


http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/14/obama-considering-continuing-bush-policy-of-indefinite-detentions-without-trial/

The discussion at the link is a bit more nuanced than "Waaaaaaaaah!!! Obama BAD!! Bad, bad, BAD!!!"

There are a few jerks sprinkled up in there, but overall the tone is more complex.

:hi:

So I guess he really believes Obama is no better than Bush.

Well fuck him.

That's where the money is. They're way more nuanced than "Obama is a poopie butt, we hate him, he's baaaaaaad! I'm taking my ball and going home! He sucks, he's always sucked, he'll always suck, too! The Democrats are all bastards!!! Fuck them!!!"

That's about the level of discussion here lately, unfortunately. It's getting really boring, too--good thing summer's coming, I guess!

Where are all the people who want to pull apart the issues and delve into the details without ascribing mendacious motives in kneejerk fashion, I wonder? Where are the people who can stand back and look at the big picture and take the long view, and discuss current events from that context? Where are the thoughtful opinions?

They're not here in the numbers they used to be, unfortunately. This place is overpopulated with people who do triple duty as Judge, Jury and Executioner--and they don't even bother to hear the case before they rule.

I'm just getting tired of "Waaaah--hang him high!!!" on every other idiotic post. It's every bit as stupid as "Canonize him as a Saint, He Can Do No Wrong."

All heat, no light.

I could barely stand to read Turley's blathering.

I'll go back later and peruse them.

Thanks again. :hi:

There are stupid ones there, too, but at least there's a bit of variety and some thought in some of them. It's an improvement!

:)

It constantly amazes me how many people fall for his patently obvious attempts to demonize the Obama administration and the Dems as a whole.

Then I'll know what to think.

What he was REALLY doing was lulling us in to THINKING he was on our side so he could bash futureobama.

I voted for him but had them take me off their fundraising list.

Methinks Mr. Turley likes hyperbole a bit too much.

Now, post-Clinton, most of them have just become republicans with slightly different rhetoric.

topsy turvy isnt it.

...working so hard to get Clinton impeached.


Everything this guy says is suspect and I will never trust his motives.

and the future's nothing new." Catchy tune.

MAYBE if we detonate a bomb we can stop that plane from ever crashing. But I doubt it.