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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:37 AM
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GOP backs CIA in dispute with Pelosi
Of course they do. BTW, weren't any rethugs briefed? Who are they and what did they do?

GOP backs CIA in dispute with Pelosi

By DONNA CASSATA
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional Republicans are rushing to defend the CIA after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused the spy agency of misleading her and other lawmakers about its use of waterboarding during the Bush administration.

The issue of what did the speaker know about the interrogation method - and when did she know it - has deepened the fault lines between the two political parties. Pelosi was unequivocal about a CIA briefing she received in the fall of 2002.

"We were told that waterboarding was not being used," the speaker said Thursday. "That's the only mention, that they were not using it. And we now know that earlier they were." She suggested the CIA release the briefing material.

Pelosi vehemently disputed Republican charges that she was complicit in the use of waterboarding, and she suggested the GOP was trying to shift the focus of public attention away from the Bush administration's use of techniques that she and President Barack Obama have described as torture.

On Friday, the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee contradicted Pelosi's claims and questioned her criticism of the nation's spy operations.

"I think it's a tragedy that we are seeing this massive attack on our intelligence community which has kept us safe," Sen. Kit Bond of Missouri said in an interview on NBC's "Today" show where he questioned why Pelosi was "going after the agency and calling them liars."

more...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PELOSI_TORTURE?SITE=CONGRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:40 AM
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1. massive attack on our intelligence community
It's not an attack on the CIA. It's an attack on the thugs in the executive branch that violated the law in barbaric ways.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:47 AM
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2. They have a lot in common. They're both evil.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:49 AM
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3. CIA prolly has a bunch of land mine paper trails....fake memos are not beneath them
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:55 AM
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4. Wow, what a SHOCK!!!! Sorry, I'm with Pelosi--why?
When a guy with OCD who writes down what tie and socks he wears everyday, who records how many hours he sleeps, what he had for every meal, every shit he takes, and everything that happens on every moment of every day, and keeps those records very carefully and precisely, tells us that the CIA lied to him, misled him, and that "No meeting with the CIA occurred on that day!!!!" why, I tend to believe him.

They lied to the wrong guy, and established clearly in my mind (and most people's) that the CIA isn't above lying to Congress.

They didn't count on former Senator and National Security Friken Genius Bob Graham and his obsessive compulsive notebooks when they decided they wanted to set up Pelosi and beat her to death.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/14/graham-cia-gave-me-false_n_203683.html

In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in the dark about the use of waterboarding, and called the agency's records on these briefings "suspect."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, the former Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman said that approximately a month ago, the CIA provided him with false information about how many times and when he was briefed on enhanced interrogations.

"When this issue started to resurface I called the appropriate people in the agency and said I would like to know the dates from your records that briefings were held," Graham recalled. "And they contacted me and gave me four dates -- two in April '02 and two in September '02. Now, one of the things I do, and for which I have taken some flack, is keep a spiral notebook of what I do throughout the day. And so I went through my records and through a combination of my daily schedule, which I keep, and my notebooks, I confirmed and the CIA agreed that my notes were accurate; that three of those four dates there had been no briefing. There was only one day that I had been briefed, which was September the 27th of 2002."...


It wouldn't surprise me if the CIA only briefed the REPUBLICAN members of Congress on specific days.

The CIA needs some course correction and housecleaning. I hope Panetta rips them a new asshole. I hope Obama gets out in front and orders it, too.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:59 AM
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5. Apparently Kit Bond thinks more of the CIA's integrity than some in the CIA think of his.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090514/US.Pelosi.Torture/

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I think it's a tragedy that we are seeing this massive attack on our intelligence community which has kept us safe," Sen. Kit Bond of Missouri said in an interview on NBC's "Today" show where he questioned why Pelosi was "going after the agency and calling them liars."

Bond said he reviewed the CIA's material and it was clear that Pelosi had been informed about the harsh interrogation method, although Bond said he was not with Pelosi when the spy agency briefed her.

<snip>

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2007/10/22/Fact-twisting-alleged-in-US-Senate-probe/UPI-77511193061244/

WASHINGTON, Oct. 22 (UPI) -- Former CIA operative Valerie Plame accused U.S. Senate Republicans of twisting the facts about the selection of her husband for a mission to Niger.

In an interview with USA Today to mark the Monday publication of her book, "Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House," Plame singled out three GOP members of the Senate Intelligence Committee for criticism.

She accused Sens. Pat Roberts, R-Kansas; Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; and Sen. Kit Bond,m R-Mo., of misstating her role in the CIA's choice of her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, to investigate reports that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake uranium in Niger.

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My question is, if someone mistates your role, or twists the facts, is that the same as lying?

Thanka for the thread, babylonsister.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:01 AM
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6. Will anyone in the media ask Kit Bond
why he supported torture?
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:44 AM
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7. In a similar thread certainot (post #1)brought up an interesting question:
Edited on Fri May-15-09 11:45 AM by juno jones
Are Rush and Hannity working for the CIA?

edit to add link to thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x448685
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:51 AM
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9. If they are, we're in more trouble than we know! nt
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:48 AM
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8. Weren't they attacking the CIA when they disagreed with W?
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