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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:38 PM
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David Brock 2004: "Democrats will be brutally slammed and systematically slandered"
This is from his introduction to his book called The Republican Noise Machine. It was revealing then, and it is going on now. We forget it for a moment, that the GOP has this powerful media blitzing organization. We forget it, and we start blaming our own for what the other side has done for years.

They are very adept at turning any issue right back on us, no matter how much merit our side has. They are excellent manipulators. They use words well. They are not afraid to take chances even if they are dead wrong on a topic. They are fearless.

From 2004:

Has the Republican Right hijacked politics?

With the right-wing media now a seemingly permanent and defining feature of the media landscape, if Democrats cut through the propaganda and win back the White House in 2004, they still face the prospect of being brutally slammed and systematically slandered in such a way that will make governing exceedingly difficult. There should be no doubt that the right-wing media’s wildings of 1993 — which led to Clinton’s impeachment four years later — will be replayed over and over again until its capacities to spread filth are somehow eradicated.


He mentions how they went after each president and presidential candidate without any hesitation.

My memoir ended in 2000; what I did not fully comprehend then, but what is apparent to me now as I have watched the politics of the last few years unfold, is that the virus was not Clinton-specific. In fact, it had nothing to do with the Clintons per se; rather, in different strains, it would afflict any and every political opponent of the right wing, including Al Gore, Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle, and the mourners of Senator Paul Wellstone, every major Democrat seeking the presidency in 2004, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, and the liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org. What we have here, as a criminal investigator might say, is a pattern.


Then came Al Gore:

The right-wing media broadcast this attack and similar attacks relentlessly, in effect giving the GOP countless hours of free political advertising every day for months leading up to the election. “Albert Arnold Gore Jr. is a habitual liar,” William Bennett, a Cabinet secretary in the Reagan and first Bush administrations, announced in the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal. “...Gore lies because he can’t help himself,” neoconservative pamphleteer David Horowitz wrote. “liar, liar,” screamed Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post. The conservative columnist George F. Will pointed to Gore’s “serial mendacity” and warned that he is a “dangerous man.” “Gore may be quietly going nuts,” National Review’s Byron York concluded. The Washington Times agreed: “The real question is how to react to Mr. Gore’s increasingly bizarre utterings. Webster’s New World Dictionary defines ‘delusion’ thusly: ‘The apparent perception, in a nervous or mental disorder, of some thing external that is not actually present...a belief in something that is contrary to fact or reality, resulting from deception, misconception, or a mental disorder.’”

This impugning of Gore’s character and the questioning of his mental fitness soon surfaced in the regular media.


Next came Howard Dean.

As I write in early 2004, the Republican Noise Machine is primed to run the same campaign of personal vilification in the 2004 presidential election, no matter which Democrat wins the nomination. An op-ed piece in the Washington Post by Charles Krauthammer has pronounced former Vermont governor Howard Dean “the Delusional Dean.” Krauthammer’s “diagnosis” rested on a transcript of a Dean appearance on MSNBC’s Hardball with Chris Matthews. Through the use of ellipses, Krauthammer doctored the transcript to make his point.

As Gore’s experience demonstrated, Democrats ignore these attacks at their peril: Not only do such attacks confirm the preconceptions of Republicans but they shape the thinking of undecided voters and even of Democrats. One of the most frightening experiences I have had in recent years in talking with rank-and-file Democrats is the extent to which they unconsciously internalize right-wing propaganda. To add insult to injury, too many Democrats have a tendency to blame the victims of these smears — their own leaders — rather than addressing the root of the problem.


We internalize the propaganda and blame our own.

Bob Cesca's blog calls it The Republican Distraction Machine

He quotes Greg Sargeant:

Multiple news accounts this morning report that Pelosi’s credibility is in question after yesterday’s press conference, in which she accused the CIA of lying about what they told members of Congress about the agency’s use of torture. This theme was sounded by MSNBC, WaPo’s Dan Balz, the New York Times write-up, and many others.

That’s as it should be. But I challenge you to find a news account that stated with equal prominence that the CIA’s credibility is also in question.


He points out that this is distraction from the real crooks and criminals and bad guys who were in charge and pushing for this policy.

Again, what's worse is that Pelosi's veracity (or not) is insignificant next to the bigger questions here. Questions that the establishment press aren't asking in lieu of this Pelosi business. The Torture-Iraq nexus is an explosive story -- so why all the attention on a Democrat who had nothing to do with authorizing torture and, with it, fabricating the case for war?


David Brock was right then, and it is still true now. The Republican Noise and Distraction Machine is out in full force right now.



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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:42 PM
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1. The Republican Noise and Distraction Machine is stuck on repeat - It will not succced this time.
And some of the chief propagandists are going down hard.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:51 PM
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4. Hey there, where in the world have you been?
Good to see you here with your art.

:hi:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:52 AM
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22. I remember people saying the exact same thing when the Swift Boat LIARS came after Kerry.
They will succeed if we let them and so far we are doing just that..The line ups for the Sunday talk shows are almost entirely Republican heavy hitters and only Seantor Webb as a counter..
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:40 AM
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45. It was easier when the Junta was still in residence and controlled DoJ.
When the indictments start to fall, their noise won't work like before.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:44 PM
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2. And people here fall for it! The shit about the Clintons. The shit about Pelosi. Etc. nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:46 PM
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3. Every time. nt
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:33 AM
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41. Sadly, I don't understand why GHWB and 'Bill the C.' are such good friends.... n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:51 PM
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5. It was interesting, though. One reason I wanted Obama to be the nominee was that
he seemed somehow more immune from the rightwing attack machine. They'd scream and sputter about him, but it didn't stick. They painted him as this scary, "foreign" type person, but then Americans watched him speak and the way he handled himself didn't fit the crazy rightwing rantings.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:53 PM
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6. It has stuck on too many, though.
And in the long run we need to fight hard for what we believe, not soft pedal it in the hopes of not getting attacked.

He is more immune than most, but we don't protect our own at all.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:43 AM
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21. Obviously, we are not fighting hard enough -- we still have no leverage over Democrats . . .
and we have a long way to go in ridding ourselves of corporate-press!!!

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 03:12 PM
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36. Big money has the leverage until election time....
then we get fooled for a little while.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:28 PM
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7. Thank goodness the machine has blown a few gaskets since 2004.
Still too effective, though.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:10 PM
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9. Only because they ran into an UNSPINNABLE EVENT - Katrina. Then the record foreclosures.
Then more lies surfaced about WH's march to war.

IF the corpmedia COULD have covered for Bush they would have - - but, they didn't have the skills and fortitude to lie the entire 24/7 from 2005-2008 the way they had from 1999-2005.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:05 PM
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10. Adding to the problem of the media...
were the DLC types urging Democrats to speak softly and cautiously and not carry a big stick.

It was allowed to go on by the complicity of many.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:02 PM
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8. I have been rereading parts of the book this week off and on.
It is fascinating. He really digs in to the background of many of our TV anchors. I just read a few paragraphs about Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough. I plan to transcribe them soon.

Quite the background stuff.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:07 PM
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11. Thanks - I Just Reserved Brock's Book Online From My Library
k&R
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:14 PM
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12. I am getting so much more from the book this time around.
I read most of it a few years ago, but it is very long and detailed. This time it seems easier reading. I guess I am more knowledgeable about some of the names now.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:03 PM
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14. It's Coming From Another Branch, So I May Have To Wait A Week Or So...
But it sounds really interesting & I'm looking forward to reading it. Thanks again for the OP.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:06 PM
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15. I was reading some more just now.
I am really amazed how much easier more interesting reading it is this time around. I guess I know the subject matter better than I did in 2004.

I want to re-order his book Blinded by the Right...but the one with the index. My original copy from 2002 or 2003...can't remember..had no index.

I hear the next edition had an index which would make for better reading.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:35 AM
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42. I thought his book "Blinded By The Right" was very good as well. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:43 PM
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13. It was always frustrating that no one pointed to the r-w propaganda until
Edited on Fri May-15-09 10:44 PM by defendandprotect
fairly recently -- hell, in Nixon's White House they were studying the old Nazi

propaganda films!

"Peace, dream, peace" . . .

Few have tried to educate Americans to this -- and a non-challenging press has

permitted the robotic performances of the GOP to go without comment.

Still, I only see Jon Stewart making the repetititon, one by one, one Repug following

the other, over and over again . .. clear to the public.

Politics and religion has to move into the mainstream -- into our daily conversations

with friends and family and co-workers -- and so should the topic of right-wing

propaganda -- it's ability to cut pff emotions and make inane conclusions possible.



PS: Had to come back to credit Prof. Mark Crispin Miller for being one of the first
authors to include "propaganda" in the index.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:38 AM
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16. I have just got to transcribe what he wrote about Scarborough's background.
Since he is from FL I thought I was pretty savvy about him, but I guess not. I don't mean the Lori stuff...just his background and some radio stuff. Most interesting.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:38 AM
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18. It's been a long since I read Brock's book -- probably time to take it out of
the library again -- he had a ton of info in it.

If you were talking about Miller . . . I haven't read all of his books --

The book that was the most valuable long before these books was "Unreliable Sources"

about corporate-news by Solomon/Lee -- 1991. That was the first that I'm aware of

to begin to expose right-wing corporate control of our press.

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livefreest Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 04:25 AM
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17. and boy does it work! there are so many more threads condemning Pelosi and Obama right now than
supporting right her on DU! :crazy:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:40 AM
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19. Unfortunately, Pelosi began disappointing Democratic voters immediately
Edited on Sat May-16-09 10:41 AM by defendandprotect
after 2006 when she began re-funding the wars --

AFTER having made clear that she and the Democrats were elected to end the wars!!!

That is, of course, something different from CIA/GOP accusations of her re torture --

I think DU is reacting to what we do know . . . that she did not join Harmon's protest.

Yes -- the CIA lies -- and we need Congress to bring it to heel -- if not to totally

put it out of business, which would be my recommendation.



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livefreest Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:13 AM
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26. Like Keith Olbermann said on his January 19, 2009 show:

"(...)we compromised with Watergate and the junior members of the Ford Administration realized how little was ultimately at risk: and they grew up to be Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheney(...)"


Later he adds
"(...)some day there will be another republican president or even a democrat(...)and he will look back to what you did about Mr Bush or what you did not do...and he will see precedent..or as Cheney saw, he will see HOW TO NOT GET CAUGHT NEXT TIME."


Bush, Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Bybee, Yoo, Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, and many more republicans and conservatives are just trying to change the rules of the political game and seize hostage the power of the government, just like it had been tried during Nixon administration. Very powerful and wealthy interests are helping them: corporations, MSM, CEOs,... This is just a Modus Operandi to not get caught. This is MUCH bigger, much larger than just the CIA. it's terribly wrong-headed to still look back at Pelosi's inaction in 2006 regarding stopping the war or impeaching Bush. That's why i ask why are we, DUers, trying to help republicans to lie?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:41 AM
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20. Geez I just started a thread on the same subject after watching Fox for 10 minutes
this morning... It is going full bore right now
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:00 AM
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23. read this a few weeks ago, and coincidentally finished What Liberal Media? by Altermann
Edited on Sat May-16-09 11:15 AM by abq e streeter
just yesterday.....both highly recommended, but sadly, the people that really need to read these ( i.e. the people who still believe what the MSM tells em, or that the MSM is "liberal") never will.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:07 AM
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24. This very effective noise machine took decades and billions of dollars to
build and trillions of dollars depends on it. It is not going away or giving up.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:39 AM
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43. Unfortunately, a lot of the information is funded by the tax-payer via the intelligence community.
Edited on Sun May-17-09 02:44 AM by ControlledDemolition
Other sources of funding the MSM among other things include, but are not limited to, the international drug trade.

(Edit: Full point not initially made.)
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:12 AM
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25. Eric Alterman's book "What Liberal Media?" was also a revelation
www.whatliberalmedia.com

He provides great detail about the campaign of a consortium of right wing think tanks and policy leaders to move our national dialogue to the right after the defeat of Judge Bork's nomination to the supreme court.

He talks about their Playing the Ref-- accusing media of a liberal bias in order to prompt them to include more and more right wingers on the air to show that they are not biased. That has worked very well.

He also describes many other parts of their campaign to dominate the media, such as talking-point distribution and the establishment of more right wing editorial outlets.

And here's a link to see how many media outlets we had in the 80's down to how few we have today, with further information about the few corporate conglomerates that own them:

http://www.corporations.org/media/

Our founders envisioned the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government being monitored by a free press.

Alas, we don't have a free press any more. We have a "free market" (i.e. cash dominated) press.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:57 AM
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28. There was one by Joe Conason also around 2004..
I think it was called Big Lies or something like that.

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:38 PM
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30. That was a good one too ! //
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:17 AM
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27. "WILL BE" brutally slammed and systematically slandered?
Fuck, they've been doing it since at least 1988...if not much earlier.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:25 PM
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29. The Republican media machine is perhaps the most powerful force in American politics today
We should not forget that, but they need to be fought, not submitted to. We need to call them on their bullshit.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:30 PM
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31. I agree with my buddy Bart at Bartcop.com (hey, I got a sub 64 IQ too!)
bartcop.com

From Barts page on Friday - if we would only get some spine and STATE THE FACTS.

Today's Quotes

"Last Sunday the popular news chat shows featured Cheney, McCain and Gingrich.
When Republicans control the government, major news shows skew Republican.
When Democrats control the government the shows still lean right."
-- Tim F,


Barts comments:

Over the years I've tried to explain this.

When a Rethug gets on TV - it's really great TV!
They scream, "that nigger" at Obama and they set their hair on fire and they make threats
about seceding from the country and arming the populace to fend off "Obama's fascism."

When a meek and timid Democratic mouse gets on TV, he says he wants to be fair and
the GOP has a good point and they have good people ...and can't we all just get along?
If I produced a Sunday TV show, I'd probably have the hair-on-fire dudes, too.

Until the Democrats learn to list the facts - forceably - who wants to hear from them?

Who wants to hear a wimpy mouse squeak when they can hear an angry lion roar?


And Dems?
Stay the fuck off of FOX NEWS and the rest of these stupid shows... please??

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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:05 PM
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32. exactly----our "leaders" keep trying to make nice while getting the old knife in the back
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:24 PM
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35. The forceful Dems are silenced by our own or made irrelevant
They become too careful just like the others to keep from being attacked by the conservadems who are so cautious.

Vicious cycle.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:08 PM
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34. K&R
Sadly
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 03:18 PM
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37. Brock: it starts at the RNC, explodes the next day on RW radio and Fox, then spreads.
"Something will start at the Republican National Committee, inside the building, and it will explode the next day on the right-wing talk-show network and on Fox News and in the newspapers that play this game, the Washington Times and the others. And then they’ll create a little echo chamber, and pretty soon they all start baiting the mainstream media for allegedly ignoring the story they’ve pushed into the zeitgeist. And then pretty soon the mainstream media goes out and disingenuously takes a so-called objective sampling, and lo and behold, these RNC talking points are woven into the fabric of the zeitgeist...."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5000518
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:05 PM
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38. Too late to rec, but I can still kick!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:12 PM
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39. Appreciate that.
Kicks are good.

:hi:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:58 PM
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40. What's new? (nt)
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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:27 AM
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44. Kick for Sunday morning
:kick:
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