In order for them to really get Pelosi, there'd need to be a full investigation of it ALL.

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In order for them to really get Pelosi, there'd need to be a full investigation of it ALL.

Edited on Sat May-16-09 04:48 PM by Lex

At least I think so. As much as they (the Republicans, the Corp. Media, whomever) would like to take down Pelosi, they are ultimately going to open a Pandora's Box which may expose Bush and Cheney and their intel manipulation.

They want to humiliate Pelosi so badly that they are stepping right in the stinking pile of Bush-Cheney crap.

This is what I'm hoping anyway.

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Sat May-16-09 05:05 PM
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4. Don't spam your mortgages here, thanks.

Edited on Sat May-16-09 05:05 PM by Lex

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Sat May-16-09 04:57 PM
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2. Yeah, it's too bad we don't have a speaker and a majority in the House.

It would have been great if we had been able to have congressional investigations. If only we'd had a Democratic speaker and majority in the House in 2007 and 2008, or even now.

Oh, wait ....

If she had been able to form a backbone at any time in the past two years, she could have brought about needed investigations, but she's been the cowardly lion for the past two years.

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Sat May-16-09 05:04 PM
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3. I don't care if she goes down with all of them. I want Bush & Cheney

and if she did wrong, she should suffer the consequences.

My point was that the people who want her so badly will end up taking down all of them (I hope).

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Sat May-16-09 05:27 PM
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5. I agree that the focus should be on the perps, not her.

But her refusal to act when she had the ability and the mandane are inexcusable.

She's being hoisted on a petard she did nothing to eliminate.

Her complicity is a minor issue in all this. Her ineffectiveness as Speaker is not a minor issue. She's absolutely terrible at it.

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Sat May-16-09 06:08 PM
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7. I suspect there's a reason she never saw fit to start investigations.

Edited on Sat May-16-09 06:12 PM by Marr

I can't imagine why an innocent person in her position wouldn't be shouting for an Independent Prosecutor. It would destroy her accusers and exonerate herself. *If* she weren't complicit, of course.

I guess we'll see just how much she's willing to sacrifice to avoid investigations, eh?

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Sun May-17-09 03:36 AM
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8. Yes, her refusal to get more interested is troubling.

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Sat May-16-09 06:03 PM
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6. To investigate her, it is necessary to investigate Cheney

especially.

Jane Mayer, in her book The Dark Side, notes that even Rice, Powell and Ashcroft were left out of key meetings during which Cheney's shadow govt decided to torture.

Powell and Ashcroft were left out because they had already expressed their doubts about the legality of Cheney's plans. (Bush, btw, wasn't even around for some of these meetings because, frankly, you don't need Howdy Doody when you're not on stage.)

So, if Cheney refused to release information to Bush's DoJ- how can Pelosi be the problem here? she's obviously not - not for this issue - she is the problem for refusing to go after the fascists when they were still in office.. officially, at least.

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Sun May-17-09 04:45 AM
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9. I think that is just what she has been calling for.

Would she want that if she were guilty of something?

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