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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:24 PM Original message |
Gun bill added to credit card bill. 27 Dems voted YES for guns, failed to pass credit card limits |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is idiotic. Subjecting national parks to the same rules as everywhere else... |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. My corporate senators stood against Bernie. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I'm assuming all the Repubs were on the same side... |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. "The bill" is about credit cards. "The amendment" is an unrelated rider... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Exactly. The bill was about credit cards. Amendment is a distraction. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
71. You mean like people who are attacked in Shenandoah National Park? Murdered on Appalachian Trail? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. So what? It's hardly damaging, so it shouldn't stop the CC bill. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. The people who want guns in National Parks should pass it on a separate bill... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. And Republicans should realize they're mostly assholes, and leave government immediately. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. Why bother? Without a usury provision this bill is toothless. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
72. It's the way things are done- and we have done plenty of it. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
62. Neither is funding for birth control but the GOP demanded it be stripped from the stimulus |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Agreed - the amendment was in effect a poison pill |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Perhaps because a lot of illegal poaching goes on in National Parks? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. bogus logic |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Name one gun free zone that actually worked?? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. thank heavens - if there is one place we need more guns, it is |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Who said more??? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. well - it there are others like yourself who avoid the BRP now |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Problem is... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Granted. But - if this legislation passes, will that change your travel plans as they relate |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Somewhat...But not by much |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. well - speaking for myself, it has nothing to do with the BRP - it has to do with guns |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. Point one, you're not going to be going poaching with a handgun. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Hunting is not allowed in national parks; why should they be allowed to carry guns? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Fortunately, that's not gonna happen |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Paranoid gun nuts? Tell that to the families of the murdered. |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. yeas |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Ok I guess you mean yes to the gun part of the bill? This is a confusing read. |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Oh those just the dems and Sanders |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Thanks. Adding it to the credit card bill makes no sense at all. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. I've actually called Martinez more than I've called Nelson |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. I still haven't heard the argument against the bill |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. Baucus and Tester voted yes guns in parks no credit card interest limit |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. Let's just add an amendment defining Congressional offices as National Parks. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
11. email Nelson here - |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Thanks for the link!! |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. yes - he is a beacon to the blue-dogs |
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judesedit (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Vote them ALL out! We need REAL representatives. Not puppets. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Exactly, Mr Webb, and Mr Warner, |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
53. I already told that mutha fucka that he lost my vote after he voted for an estate tax reduction. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. Here's hoping it's stripped out in conference... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. You contribute to Republicans? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Bullshit. The NRA supports 80% Republicans, the Brady's support 100% Democrats... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. HA HA!!! |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. the NRA supports those |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. It's facts, not bullshit. Try reading up on the Brady Campaign. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
15. More from CNN on the stupidity of combining the two issues. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
16. As a pro-right to keep and bear arms sort of fellow, I support the substance of the amendment, but.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It doesn't matter what we think. |
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judesedit (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. Exactly. And the whole practice should be illegal |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. doh, already posted. n/t |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
20. Aren't they afraid |
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centristgrandpa (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. parity is not a good thing... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
25. don't have a problem with the amendment but attaching it to a credit card bill is ridiculous |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. But..but... We shouldn't critizice Democrats on DU! |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
33. This really PISSES me off! |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. My Senators, |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
67. Good for you! |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. Seems like the solution to this one is obvious. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. LOL - I like it.... |
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AndyfromNC (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. yes on both |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
38. For Our Sanity, Don't Use "Harry Reid" and "Leadership " in the Same Sentence |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
68. He really is not a good leader. |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. haven't heard of too many |
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judesedit (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. That's a NO vote for Nelson |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. The cc companies are staying ahead of the game and raising rates as fast as they can . . . |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Bank of America raising rates on everyone... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. So let me get this straight - guns good, credit caps bad. |
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Stinger2 (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. Ally Bank Review |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. So... we can own a gun to potentially shoot each other |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
61. K&R |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
63. Darn. Now I can't afford |
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