But did anyone on the left pay attention or pick up on this secret.

The GOP hopes we didn't.

Care to take a guess?

Sorry to leave ya'all hangin.

I'll answer in awhile.

Just wanna see if anyone knows.

Have at it!

Peace

What is it?

Just think back to the campaign.

I'll answer soon.

unless it's the screamingly obvious fact that their base lies in a shrinking demographic, you've got me.

These posts are BS.

You are wasting people's time.

Wait a few more minutes and you'll find out.

Can we have that in writing, with promised compensation for our wasted time if it isn't?

nm

I mean really...

LOL :rofl:

What did you bribe him with to get him to pose for that awesome pic?

wouldn't let basement cat infiltrate his dreams. :)

as all of their potential candidates are flawed and don't come close to representing the values of the majority of the party.

just a guess.

say, say it. If you have nothing to say, don't start threads. This is bogus.

...I don't know, help me out here...

:shrug:

But did anyone on the left pay attention or pick up on this number?

The GOP hopes you didn't!

Care to take a guess?

Sorry to leave ya'all hangin.

I'll answer in awhile.

Just wanna see if anyone knows.

Have at it!

Peace

That's pretty obvious.

The only way they could have buried all this torture stuff was either to not have an election, or "win" with someone like Rudy.

So he's unfit to be President because he's messed up??

:shrug:

it means that McCain is a traitor because he gave up useful information to the enemy...

However, if they say that McCain's tortured confessions were false that means the Republican torture policy was wrong...it's a Catch-22 for the Repubs.

Is the subject a domestic or foreign issue?

:shrug:

But none are correct as far as answering this thread.

:shrug:

McCain-Feingold worked people.

The McCain campaign simply couldn't raise the cash needed due to the limited constraints governed by that law.

McCain-Feingold doesn't go nearly far enough but it showed us one thing.

THAT CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS EVEN IN A WEAK FORM LIKE M-F EMPOWER PROGRESS.

WE NEED STRONGER LAWS, MUCH STRONGER.

People, learn from the election of '08.

It's a glaring fact that we have somewhat ignored.

Why?

Demand campaign finance reform!

Peace

:eyes:

Always wear your seat belt.
Remember what your Mother said.

Sorry, that's all I can think of.

In fact, Obama may not have won the election without it.

Obama made a mockery of our political financing system.

The Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA, McCain–Feingold Act, Pub.L. 107-155, 116 Stat. 81, enacted March 27, 2002) is United States federal law that amended the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, which regulates the financing of political campaigns. Its chief sponsors were Senators Russell Feingold (D-WI) and John McCain (R-AZ). The law became effective on 6 November 2002, and the new legal limits became effective on January 1, 2003.

As noted in McConnell v. Federal Election Commission, a United States Supreme Court ruling on the BCRA, the Act was designed to address two issues:

1.The increased role of soft money in campaign financing, by prohibiting national political party committees from raising or spending any funds not subject to federal limits, even for state and local races or issue discussion.

2.The proliferation of issue advocacy ads, by defining as "electioneering communications" broadcast ads that name a federal candidate within 30 days of a primary or caucus or 60 days of a general election, and prohibiting any such ad paid for by a corporation (including non-profit issue organizations such as Right to Life or the Environmental Defense Fund) or paid for by an unincorporated entity using any corporate or union funds.


Pres Bush signed this into law predicting that the Supreme Court would overturn many key provision that he opposed in the bill. He was dead wrong.

You were saying it was effective.

What was it effective at?

The only thing it was effective at was moving us further and further away from public financing.

Feh!

.. to the importance of how our limited and relatively weak finance laws made a MONUMENTAL difference in the outcome of '08 and Obama's win.

As I've said earlier in this thread, we need much tougher campaign finance laws.

The lack of tough laws has enabled political corruption in America to the point where we can hardly differentiate between the two parties.

Do I need to break out Sen Max Baucus' donor list again?

His top 100 donors list is stacked with health insurers, Big Pharm, Investment banks. And he still calls himself a Dem.

Max Baucus owes allegiance to his masters because of weak campaign finance laws.

Hence, Single Payer Universal Health Care gets swept under the table.

Lack of campaign finance laws has stopped progress and prog policies dead in their tracks.

Now, do you see the importance of raising awareness?

specifically that you like to play games with your posts. No thanks.

Say what you mean to say in the initial post.

What a weird thread.

Internet fundraising existed in '04. But nowhere near what net FR grew to in '08.

Obama put internet fundraising on the map and net FR is largely credited in his victory.

Obama has been a lifelong master of grass roots organizing. Including the massive grass roots net fundraising drive created by his campaign.

To say the least, it was sheer fucking brilliance on Obama's part.

and they realized that they'd be better off just passing the mess to a dem anyway, so why waste money ..

Pretty much the same reason why party-crashers don't stick around to help clean up the host's parents' house..

Sid

DUMBEST


THREAD


EVER

:hi:

Sid

Okay - first I was trying to figure out what Steve Jobs had done to warrant his own thread..

Mac's pres = Steve Jobs.... :eyes: I am an Apple user...

But he doesn't want the world to know so he never goes to any family reunions, although he's been invited repeatedly.

all the way through.

THIS THREAD = FAIL.