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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:04 PM
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Cheney Convicts Himself of Crimes In His Own Speech
Edited on Thu May-21-09 12:30 PM by Stephanie
In his own speech today Cheney convicts himself. He's frank about his motivation for speaking out: he wants to avoid the "so called Truth Commission." In the next breath he concedes that the actions taken at Abu Ghraib were criminal. He neglects to point out that those actions were taken on direct orders from the Bush/Cheney WH to the military commanders, including at Abu Ghraib.

The Dick:



Over on the left wing of the president’s party, there appears to be little curiosity in finding out what was learned from the terrorists. The kind of answers they’re after would be heard before a so-called “Truth Commission.” Some are even demanding that those who recommended and approved the interrogations be prosecuted, in effect treating political disagreements as a punishable offense, and political opponents as criminals. It’s hard to imagine a worse precedent, filled with more possibilities for trouble and abuse, than to have an incoming administration criminalize the policy decisions of its predecessors.

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In public discussion of these matters, there has been a strange and sometimes willful attempt to conflate what happened at Abu Ghraib prison with the top secret program of enhanced interrogations. At Abu Ghraib, a few sadistic prison guards abused inmates in violation of American law, military regulations, and simple decency. For the harm they did, to Iraqi prisoners and to America’s cause, they deserved and received Army justice. And it takes a deeply unfair cast of mind to equate the disgraces of Abu Ghraib with the lawful, skillful, and entirely honorable work of CIA personnel trained to deal with a few malevolent men.




General Karpinski on the release of the torture memos:




http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/22/us.torture.karpinski/

(CNN) -- She said she was a scapegoat. She said she was just following orders. She said she was demoted unfairly.

Now, retired Army Col. Janis Karpinski can say: I told you so.

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"I will tell you that when I read those memorandums, when they were first released a few days ago, I did -- I did feel this sense of being able to exhale after five years," Karpinski said.

"That is what we have been saying from the very beginning, that, wait a minute, why are you inside pointing the finger at me, why are you pointing the fingers at the soldiers here? There's a bigger story here."

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The Senate Armed Forces Committee released a report Tuesday, five days after the memos were released, stating that senior Bush administration officials authorized aggressive interrogation techniques on suspected terrorists, despite concerns from military psychologists and attorneys.

The report points to then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's approval of such techniques -- including stress positions, removal of clothing, use of phobias (such as fear of dogs), and deprivation of light and auditory stimuli -- in December 2002 for detainees at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. His OK prompted interrogators in Afghanistan and Iraq to adopt the aggressive techniques.

The guidance was delivered to Abu Ghraib by then-Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, who was summoned to Baghdad from Guantanamo to evaluate the prison system.

"We had a myriad of problems in our -- in the prison system, not with detainees who were undergoing interrogations, but with Iraqi criminal prisoners," Karpinski said. "And instead of coming to give us support, he was sent specifically to work with the military intelligence interrogators to teach them the harsher techniques that were being used down in Guantanamo."








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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:09 PM
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1. Why is he bothering? Obama/Holder are uninterested.
As long as he doesn't leave the country, he's got no problems.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:15 PM
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2. Because he's a fearful man
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:57 PM
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3. Meaningless. No one will lift a finger to bring this criminal to justice.
As long as President Obama allows war criminals to walk free, and acts of torture to go unpunished, and detainment an military tribunals to continue, anything he does is beyond meaningless. Who gives a fuck if he gets the bubble economy back on track if If our grandchildren are fucked because of the lack of character and morals of this administration and Congress. If he continues to do nothing about atrocities committed in our name, then his administration, along with congress will have earned the contempt that is waiting down the road for them. My contempt towards Congress is growing, and it is starting to bud towards Obama.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:58 PM
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4. This is America, so it doesn't matter.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:55 PM
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5. KO making this exact point now in his special comment.
Thanks KO!
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