I remember something he had said, during his last press statement and conference. He stated that most newly-elected Presidents walk into the White House with two or three major issues on his desk. Obama walked in to SEVEN OR EIGHT issues on his desk.

I am saddened by how quickly people can forget how Bush - in 8 years - turned every positive asset of America, into a liability; and yet, expect Obama to fix everything in a few, short months.

He WARNED us - NUMEROUS TIMES - that his agenda would not be achieved overnight.

Please. Cut him some slack.

Because there are far too many chicken little threads.

Some of what he's been doing lately pisses me the fuck off, but I've learned over the years and through getting sober that you hit bumps in the road, things happen for a reason and sometimes the last thing you want to occur can turn out to be the best thing that can ever happen.

"sometimes the last thing you want to occur can turn out to be the best thing that can ever happen."

As an example, how does the concept of preventive detention turn out to be the best thing that can ever happen?

I know it's just one thing, but it is kind of important.

I'm not saying don't question anything, I'm just saying give it time for decisions to play out fully. Sometimes one decision is a temporary negotiation for a better solution in the end. I try to look at the entire package, not just the small decisions being made every day. But that's just me. When you get old, you realize there are patterns to things, so you just watch and see how many paths are leading in what direction before you jump of into a hissy fit.

He told us, during his campaign, that things would get worse before they get better; that he would most likely be making decisions that some of us don't approve of; and asked all of us to have patience.

It's only been four months. IMO, many things have not gotten worse - they haven't necessarily gotten better, but they've stabilized, at least.

I try to wait until the first year is completed by a new Prez, before I attempt to evaluate the "state of the Union".

it is detaining people who were carrying arms against US forces to prevent them from continuing to carry arms against US forces.

You know, kinda like the 'preventive detention' of 425,000 Axis POWs during WW2 - who were also held 'indefinitely' since we were holding them to the end of the war, and we had no idea how long that would be.

Unlike the asshole who occupied the Oval Office prior to Jan 20.

more time as he tries to clean up the absolutely monstrous mess that bush/cheney created.

but I guess there may be a few who think we missed a better opportunity with the Gop.

I think Obama has caused many people who were on the edge to finally lose their damn minds.

Any gripes some of us may have with President Obama's direction on several issues had nothing to do with "approval ratings".

it's the black and white thinkers who are going bonkers right now. they don't get it that the c.i.c., though he may have the legal power, really can't change things like military culture just by waving a rolled up copy of the constitution. ditto for the dc democrats. this shit takes time.

some are more patient than others, but a large number of those that HAVE lost their patience might have done so possibly by being effected by what's going on this country on a more personal level.

how many here have lost homes, and jobs, or have a loved one who is gay in the military, or is in the military at all for that matter.

it's understandable how some have met their threshold already.

we all want him to succeed, and everyone knows that things take time and that you can't clean up an 8 yr mess in a matter of months, but there are some things that can be done sooner.

in the end, we all have to do what we feel we need to do to support our president, and to hold his feet to the fire. everyone needs to choose their own level of involvement at this point. the directions we go in may vary, but our goal is the same. to make this country a better place for all of us.

They were talking about how the recession was affecting people... that people were having to *gasp* give things up. Now that the middle class is starting to feel the bite, it's suddenly newsworthy.

Many here and all over have been suffering in one way or another, or in more than a few ways, for years. Decades, even.

the recession is affecting everyone in their own individual ways.

2001-2009 mirrors the mantra of excess that 1981-1989 did, as well as the 20's. this doesn't mean that everyone got to live that way though.

And he is teaching that lesson. Respond to the issues in big enough numbers and the elected reps HAVE to do what we want done. We can't just whine 'somebody has to fix......' In a democracy, 'somebody' is us. The good teacher we elected to administer the executive branch is getting that lesson across to a population that needs to be empowered and re-learn democracy after the "who cares what you think?" years of GOP/bush/cheney.

no one can sit idly anymore. sitting idly by is NOT how we got a dem congress and dem pres.

the real work has just begun, but we must understand where everyone is coming from. there's always going to be a few assholes on both sides that inflame things, but both sides still need to be able to voice themselves.

He knows we need a change in how the people of this great nation look at their responsibilities. He has mentioned, before, that WE have work to do too. He is nudging us to get more light bulbs going on over our too-loo self absorbed brains.

The good professor does more than lead. He seems to have fine tuned the adage about giving a man a fish as opposed to teaching a man TO fish.

I loves the good professor's methods. :loveya:

I will tip my hat to anyone who will work to keep the pressure on this administration to close Guantanamo, end the wars, end the illegal detensions, and investigate and/or prosecute Bush-Cheney officials who broke the law, even if their intent was good (which is uinprovable and irrelevant to the il/legality of what they did).

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Good grief! Give him some air so he can survive the suffocating load he is carrying. I picture many of those who are complaining are the same ones who do all the Monday morning quarterbacking. They couldn't get off their tushes and walk across the street without complaining of how tired they are.

Look at what Obama has already done. Look at how many speeches he's made, sudden appearances on TV to explain his decisions or stop wrong impressions. When does he sleep?

He still amazes me. I know he won't make all the decisions I would like, but I'm prepared to work with him to get this country back on track.

Think back to what we had and be grateful for what we have. Go, Obama and Biden.

Still cheerleading here (honest to God. no sarcasm)

If he is in office for two terms, I believe he will get this country back on track. Those who are afraid of change will put up their usual resistance and it will be unpleasant for us and for them. However, our President strikes me as a persistent sort who will hammer away at a problem until it is solved or on its way to a solid solution. Be patient. This is a man who is NOT going to do the razzle/dazzle Washington tap dance for 8 years.

or at least it used to be