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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:35 PM
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Does anyone out there take issues with Sotomayor's Pro Life creds?
Although she never argued an abortion case (very few have, btw) she has been pretty much on the Anti-Abortion side for a while.

Granted, she's no Scalia. But Bush gave us 2 Rabid RWingers, do we really want to challenge that with a moderate?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:39 PM
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1. I'm beyond caring about Roe v Wade anymore. If this country wants
Edited on Tue May-26-09 04:40 PM by kestrel91316
an anti-choice USSC and overturns it, it won't affect me. People can have what they want, and if they want dead women, who am I to stop them? Because that's what they will get. Just not me (I'm 52).

I've given that fight the best years of my life. Young people have to take up the banner.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:39 PM
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2. Upon what do you base this conclusion?
as to her "anti-abortion" views?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:42 PM
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5. The Huffington Post article
Cant...find...link now...

I got it off here
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:53 PM
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8. I didn't see that one
Was it about her decision regarding "Center for Reproductive Law and Policy v. Bush"? That was the one about federal funds going to abortion providers out of country.

Or was it the one (don't recall the case name) where she upheld the rights of anti-choice protesters in regards to excessive force used by the police against them?

Or is there something else I'm not aware of?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:55 PM
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9. I searched the articles at Huffpo.... nada
Edited on Tue May-26-09 04:56 PM by hlthe2b
While the two cases below are tangentially related, neither would necessarily leave me concluding she is anti-choice...


This assertion is an important one.... I really hope someone can find a basis for making it or disprove it. I am very uncomfortable with some of the conclusions being drawn with minimal evidence... :shrug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:07 PM
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12. I can't find it either anymore - put this one on hiatus until I find it
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:40 PM
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3. I'm not passionate about the abortion issue like many, but I think this woman will turn conservative
over time. I really don't like the pick at all. Also for someone to be as smart as her academic record suggest, she really doesn't explain things in an intelligent way. I know Obama could've found someone better. I hope it works out, but I can see her being the Dem's Souter.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:41 PM
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4. Is Sotomayor's anti-abortion & anti-gun history acceptable to those who are pro-choice on guns &
pro-choice on abortion?
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:44 PM
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6. I am concerned...
Mainly because a good number 15-30%? of Latinos consider themselves Catholic. Hopefully her personal religious beliefs wont affect the interpretation of the laws for everyone.
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:50 PM
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7. Hmmm, true.
I know she attended either Catholic elementary and/or middle school. Course, that really doesn't mean too much.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:00 PM
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10. No considering I went as far as all girls Catholic school. n/t
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:02 PM
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11. If you're throwing out a label like "pro life" don't you think you should have some proof
and some examples.

I've been reading all afternoon about her and haven't found a single reference to her being "pro life."

And if she hasn't argued an abortion case, then how pray-tell, do you have any knowledge of her being "pretty much on the anti-abortion side???"

Please share. If you've got nothing, as I suspect is the case, you should delete this.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:07 PM
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13. There is only one ruling that I know of...
Edited on Tue May-26-09 05:12 PM by kirby
From Wikipedia:

In Center for Reproductive Law and Policy v. Bush,<44> Sotomayor upheld the Bush administration's implementation of the Mexico City Policy which requires foreign organizations receiving U.S. funds to "neither perform nor actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations". Sotomayor held that the policy did not constitute a violation of equal protection, as the government "is free to favor the anti-abortion position over the pro-choice position, and can do so with public funds".<45>

Source: http://www.precydent.com/citation/304/F.3d/183

However, if you actually look at that ruling, that statement is make in the context of 'The Supreme Court has held'. So she was quoting SC precedent.

Also, since she declares herself as Roman Catholic, that raises a bit of a concern for me about how she might rule.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:11 PM
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14.  no offense, but I don't think that can possibly be characterized as a pro-life ruling.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:12 PM
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15. I wasnt really offering it as proof...
I was offering it as to the single reference that people seem to be picking up on. I don't think her views are clear at all. I just wanted to add some context to the conversation so people know where this is coming from.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:23 PM
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18. There millions upon millions of ardently pro choice Catholics.
And I'm just as sure there are as many Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim and Atheist pro-lifers.

Remember John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Geraldine Ferraro are ALL Roman Catholics and ardently pro-choice.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:49 PM
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22. Yep
Catholics aren't like Baptists about the letter of the law...that's the job of Pharisees ;)

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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:09 PM
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23. They are called Cafeteria Catholics...
Picking and choosing what they want to believe and follow.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:14 PM
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16. I'm checking on that
There was an article: "All you wanted to know about Sotomayor you need to know" or something like that. It stated she never ruled on an abortion case, but has some Anti-Choice connections.

I can't find that article anymore, and withhold any judgment until I can.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:19 PM
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17. Is this it?
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:33 PM
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19. What kind of game are you playing? I found the article in 30 secs and it says nothing of the kind.
Yeah, Planned Parenthood just loves them some anti-choice peoples:


That said, pro-choice groups hailed her nomination, with Planned Parenthood declaring that she "understands the importance of ensuring that our Supreme Court justices respect precedent while also protecting our civil liberties."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/01/sonia-sotomayor-supreme-c_n_194470.html


Please click on this link and then have the dignity to come back and explain where you infer she has "anti-choice connections"????
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:40 PM
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20. Yes - Misread
Apologies

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:41 PM
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21. Everyone is pro-life
The question is thus, pro-choice or anti-choice.

Semantics, I suppose. I just hate seeing Right-wing frames around an otherwise valid liberal discussion :) Carry on
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:13 PM
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24. I wouldn't give a death-monger like Cheney that appellation, though.
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