Willingness to torture tells us all we need to know about the character of Bush, Cheney et al

These were people who probably grew up getting bullied. Pulled legs off spiders or bashed frogs with a baseball bat. Scared shitless of their own shadow. They grow up failures at everything, hide behind their rich families, get deferments due to both their status and their "chickenshitness". They are not smart enough to be able to run anything properly. They get placed into power, ignore warnings of impending doom due to their hubris, ignorance, stubbornness and stupidity. The shit hits the fan - they shake in their boots - and they can't wait to start doing what they know to strike back - torture.

What sick, sad characters led this nation for 8 years. It is an injustice to all humanity if the truth is not uncovered, and the rotten, stinking cover on this peeled back.

bush/cheney have been arrested by the FBI on suspicion of numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity

who keep talking about torture as something we should have done and were right to do. It may have started with bush et al, but it spread around and here we are with people actually thinking the debate is not about what is right and wrong... but somehow anything goes with regard to our 'safety'. without ever thinking about the ramifications of these actions. this very act, of torturing... this very act has made us less safe. It has served to strengthen those who would do us harm. It has made our soldiers less safe. We have essentially given the go ahead to torture our soldiers if captured.

than thinkers and peaceniks, that's for sure. Maybe the ugly truth is how low so much of our country really is. Progress - what progress??

so they can watch people get berated by the judges. they watch shows like survivor to watch people stab each other in the back. there are a lot of bullies and enablers. as long as it's everyone else but them.

Or the invasion of Iraq.

Freepers have sold them to us as a means to keep America and Americans safe, but the truth of the matter is, both have made us more vulnerable to hate and more likely to be attacked again.

Sadly, the MSM repeats the freepers' points until their notion of reality becomes the norm.

how would we be able to fight back if someone attacked us now!! we just don't have the ability to defend ourselves right now. that sure as hell doesn't make me feel very safe.

The incident was during the 2000 campaign in which an open microphone caught bush talking to cheney. He pointed out a NYtimes reporter and called him an a$$hole. After he was caught, bush apologized that people heard the comment, but not for making the comment. This comment was from a man who claimed to be "christian." He never was a Christian. The fact that bush was so slick in the way he was careful not to apologize to the reporter would foreshadow his failures as president.

That right there told America what kind of jerk he really was. The rest of your comments are right on and should be written in stone so that the world knows the poor character of the people who voted for him. That part of the story is missing.

in plain sight.

Obama's walking a fine line - he can't afford to antagonize the leaders of nations he is negotiating with, and he can't be seen to be endangering US troops, and he can't abandon the rule of law, and he can't give the republicans an issue to use against him in 2012 - what would YOU do?

Maybe make a few bland public comments while ensuring the information still gets out to the public? THESE are the pics that Hersch was talking about 3 years ago, which the last administration said didn't exist. Nobody is denying their existence now, and they could well be the foundation for further prosecutions (notably, they do include persons NOT involved with the first batch which have already been prosecuted) that COULD reach much higher up the chain of command, and this time it would be at the insistence of the American public, so it could not be put off as being 'Obama and the democrats vindictively persecuting the former administration'.

Remember, it took a full year after the first pics came out before anyone was prosecuted. A case needs to be built, investigated, followed up the chain that the last investigation ignored.

This is NOT going to be buried. Trust me.