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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:58 PM
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Remember Mrs. Alito?
Edited on Thu May-28-09 06:29 PM by Stephanie







Media used emotional reaction of Alito's wife to suggest Democrats "went too far"

==snip==

On the third day of Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr.'s confirmation hearing, Alito's wife, Martha-Ann, broke down in tears during a series of questions and comments by Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), in which Graham, apparently referring to Democrats' questions about Alito's membership in the now-defunct group, Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP), said:



GRAHAM: If you don't mind the suspicious nature that I have -- it's that you may be saying that because you want to get on the Supreme Court; that you're disavowing this now because it doesn't look good. And really, what I would look at to believe you're not -- and I'm going to be very honest with you -- is: How have you lived your life? Are you really a closet bigot?

ALITO: I'm not any kind of a bigot. I'm not.

GRAHAM: No, sir, you're not. And you know why I believe that? Not because you just said it -- but that's a good enough reason -- because you seem to be a decent, honorable man. ... Judge Alito, I am sorry that you've had to go through this. I am sorry that your family has had to sit here and listen to this.

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Among the subjects Alito was asked about during the second day of questioning was his membership in CAP -- an organization that opposed increased admission of women and minorities to Princeton. Founded amid the first enrollment of women to the school, CAP, according to People for the American Way, circulated a fundraising letter in 1973 that claimed: "a student population of approximately 40 percent women and minorities will largely vitiate the alumni body of the future." Alito listed his membership in the group on the "Personal Qualifications Statements" part of his 1985 application for the position of deputy assistant attorney general with the Reagan administration.



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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:01 PM
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1. I dunno, shouldn't spouses be off limits?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:02 PM
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2. Barbara Bush also ?
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:04 PM
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3. spouses and kids - NO, not always off limits...
note: Lynn and Liz Cheney.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:14 PM
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7. But they're not ridiculed for being family member of the Notorious D.U.C.K.
They're ridiculous for the things they go out and argue as public figures. They make themselves spokespersons for dumb causes, so they're not off limits. If Lynn just stuck to writing naughty cowgirl novels, I'd say leave her alone.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:11 PM
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5. Public figure
Edited on Thu May-28-09 06:12 PM by Bucky
Barbara got out there and mixed it up, called Geraldine Ferraro a bitch long before there even was a GD:P.

But other political spouses don't go out there and make themselves opinion shapers. Laura Bush is an example--she did less as FLOTUSILF than any FLOTUS since Mamie Eisenhower. She went out for public photo ops, but unlike Hillary Clinton or Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan, she didn't play a leading role in any public debates. A better contrast would be Michelle and Jill. Michelle is everywhere making America a little better. Jill plays a public role when called upon to join someone on stage, but mostly she's a lit professor. I don't get too worked up if Michelle ends up in an unflattering cartoon (it wouldn't work anyway). Jill's just doing her job.

Alito's wife stood by her man--an admirable quality--and got emotional in a vulnerable moment, but never asked for a public role. I don't see the point in holding her up to ridicule, which I gathered to be the intent of the OP.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:26 PM
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10. The intent of the OP was to show how Republicans deal with tough questions
They have the wife put on a show and everyone backs off. I wonder how poor Mrs. Alito would react to the names Sonia Sotomayor is being called.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 11:26 PM
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21. Looked to me like the point was...
...that when Democrats brought up his membership in an organization whose express intention was to block the advancement of women at Princeton, pointing it out during questioning was seen as "off limits" -- among other reasons, because it made his wife cry. Yet those same people who thought the Democrats went too far, are at this very moment accusing Ms. Sotomayor of being a racist because of a statement she made 8 years ago that was really pretty mild, and because she's a Latina and therefore cannot be expected to put aside her own biases (unlike the white men, who, of course, always put aside their biases because they, in fact, do not have any biases). So he gets to be a member of a bigoted organization and we are not allowed to point it out, while the other side can accuse Sotomayor of being racist just because they feel like it, and no one says they've gone too far.

That's what I thought the point was, not to mock Mrs. Alito.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:17 PM
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9. Then don't bring her to the hearing
If her emotional reaction is going to be used against her husband's critics, then the door is open for analysis of her, as well. If she wants to be there to support him, fine. But she should sit quietly and refrain from offering her own little testimonial.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:48 PM
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14. good point, look at all the things Michelle Obama heard and was even asked about
her husband. i mean, forget her husband, just look at all the attacks on her. and she never went out there and cried about it.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:05 PM
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4. No, spouses should not be off limit, anymore than the family of a murder victim should
not be permited in the court where the killer is being tried.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:15 PM
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8. Okay, you lost me on that one
How's this parallel?
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:29 PM
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11. Just that it is a general display of true emotion by a family member during an intense
Edited on Thu May-28-09 06:34 PM by Mike 03
hearing in which someone they love has something personal at stake.

Why is my analogy so confusing?

Someone will always see the emotional response from connected parties in any intense hearing that is televised.

How can you ban that? And why should we?

EDIT:

Obviously, this is just my opinion, which is worth zilch. I don't actually recall the media "using" that, but if you say so, I agree.

I think the media use the emotion of "loved ones" all the time, especially in criminal trials.

In fact, a better word than "use" is simply "exploit." Emotion sells. It is the common denominator of all drama, and has been as long as two sides have opposed each other.





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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:11 PM
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6. "Oh, my god..

"Oh, my god... I never realized what a total fucking asshole my husband is!"

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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:39 PM
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12. You have totally missed the mark.
Alito is one of the most dangerous people to ever be seated on the Supreme Court. He is a member of the secret cult of Opus Dei. This cult is determined to destroy the Republic and establish a theocracy. He is no different than the extremist Taliban. These madmen are deter minded to bring about a confrontation between the Islam and Christianity. These are the same end-time nitwits that took us into war in the Middle East with their dreams of bringing about the Parousia.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:46 PM
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13. I thought the spin was that the whiniest, wimpiest "conservative" was far
tougher than the toughest, bravest Liberal Man ...

but poow widdle Misses Alito went and cwied because someone suggested her husband might have not been truthful ...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:49 PM
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15. i remember a lot of people thought she was his mother, i also remember Robert's kid dancing
while BUsh was speaking.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 08:22 PM
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:46 PM
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17. Smear people? She was crying because he was asked about items on his CV
Edited on Thu May-28-09 09:49 PM by Stephanie
He credited himself with belonging to an organization opposed to women and minorities attending Princeton, he wrote it on his resume, and when it came up in the confirmation hearings she stomped out of the room until the questions stopped. He credited himself with the affiliation, Congress questioned his stance, and you call that a smear? I won't bother to welcome you to DU, if you're still here.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 10:29 PM
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19. Hah! That's quite a profile!
You share hobbies with both Dick Cheney and Clarence Thomas.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 10:37 PM
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20. Wow! Do you like anchovies on pizza, too?
:eyes:
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raventattoo Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 10:14 PM
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18. Thanks for the info...
This is perfect comeback for all the right wing koolaid drinking family and others I have to deal with in my life who say one word about Sotomayor's statement that the rw msm can't seem to get enough of.
And will someone remind me: did the grand old CNN have an extra running banner when H fucking Meyers was nominated???
That should be KO's WTF!!
I know I'm not the only one sick of seeing that!
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