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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 07:47 PM Original message |
The Trauma of 9/11 Is No Excuse - By Richard A. Clarke |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R n/t |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh My- the poor war criminals |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 03:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Yeah, and just WHO are the murderous tyrants now? nt |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. If the President does it |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you Richard Clarke. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Highly recommend. Last para. here: |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. "a coordinated, devastating attack on our country from an underground bunker at the White House" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. No, 'Watching it' from a bunker can affect your view... nt |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 03:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Boy you've really got him now. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Well, I thought it was funny. |
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keopeli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. 9/11 may have changed many things, but it did not change the Constitution..." |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. Are they setting themselves up |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. Reading the PNAC "trauma" is not the word that comes to one's mind. |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. BINGO and BRAVO |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. The mainline media was/is complicitous in the cover up of 9/11. Never happen |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. You're not still holding your breath waiting are you? |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. "Hey Dick, how's that new Pearl Harbor-type event coming along?" |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Bingo tie them to the PNAC. |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. The money line: |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
12. Zeal Or No Zeal? |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Somehow I doubt Clarke on his premise. |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. But keep in mind they were in constant campaign mode |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Oh, there's no doubt about that. |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
15. We don't know what happened in the lead up to 9/11 |
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rschop (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Explaining why the CIA hid information on Mihdhar and Hazmi from the FBI |
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rschop (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Kevin Fenton, Mihdhar and his connection to the Cole bombing |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
16. K&R |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
19. ya know, it's tough being the head of a nation, but ya'all signed on for it |
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Cresent City Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
21. About the "9/11 changed everything" mantra |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. This was the perfect summation. What a post! |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. We were a complacent, ignorant |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. The trauma of 9/11... |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. Where was the professionalism we have a right to expect and demand from our leaders? |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
24. The trauma was seeing our Constitution get destroyed along with the Towers |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
25. National Security Advisor |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Nice catch of that little slip. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
27. Trauma wasn't the motive, it was opportunity |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
28. Thank you, Mr. Clarke. I have no doubt that the 2004 election was foremost |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
34. Excellent article by Clarke. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
35. Wikipedia: In 1814, the White House was burned to the ground. Madison had no "Patriot Act" |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. it it were, any nation would be free to do what they wanted, in the name of trauma |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
38. kick and recommended for the truth !!!! |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
39. I wish Rice hours of solitary confinement |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
43. "If you had seen the tragedy that occurred at Pearl Harbor... |
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rschop (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-01-09 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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