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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:42 AM
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10 Things Gas Stations Won't Tell You


http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/107117/10-Things-Gas-Stations-Won%27t-Tell-You


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Faced with such instability, Gainesville, Fla., resident Steven King plans ahead: “If I know I’m going out of town, I try not to buy gas so I can fill up after I leave.” King says he can save 10 cents a gallon by purchasing gas on the road. You’d be similarly wise to shop around—with prices constantly in motion, the cheapest gas may not be at the same station every time.

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Stations earn on average between 10 and 15 cents on a gallon of gas. Ironically, they earn the least when prices are highest. When fuel climbs, gas stations must shrink their profit margin to remain competitive, meaning they earn less per gallon than usual. But another big cost during tough times is something they can’t do anything about—credit card fees, which add up to about 2.5 percent of all purchases. When gas is at, say, $2 a gallon, the station pays credit card companies 5 cents a gallon; when gas hits $3, that fee becomes 7.5 cents—more than half the station’s entire average profit. “Those credit card fees are miserable for the gas station business,” says Mohsen Arabshahi, who owns five Southern California gas stations.

How do station owners make up for lost revenue? “Prices go up like a rocket and come down like a feather,” says Richard Gilbert, a professor of economics at UC Berkeley. For several weeks after wholesale prices drop, stations can earn as much as 20 cents a gallon before retail prices are lowered to reflect the change.

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Your debit card might be a convenient way to pay for gas, but it’s a no-win proposition. When you swipe a debit card at the pump, the bank doesn’t know how much money you’ll be spending until you’ve finished pumping. So to make sure you have the funds to cover the purchase, some stations ask banks to automatically set aside some of your money: That amount can be $20 or more. That means even if you just topped off your tank for $10, you could be out $30, $50, even $100 until the station sends over its bulk transactions, which can take up to three days. If your funds are running low, you might end up bouncing a check in the meantime—even though you had the money in your account.

(wow)

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It’s hard to know if you’re getting all the gas you paid for at the pump. But in some places there’s a very good chance you’re not. The state or county weightsand- measures department usually checks pumps for accuracy, but in some areas it can be years between inspections. Arizona, for example, has only 18 staff members to check the state’s 2,300 stations.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:57 AM
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1. I guess that's why ARCO is consistently cheaper than other gas stations.
They don't take credit cards and charge a $0.45 fee to use a debit card.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:37 PM
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5. Maybe they should put in those dollar feeders for a discount.
Except we'd mostly use twenties.

That debit card crap is ridiculous. Having a debit of whatever they hell they want to put and taking days to fix it is WRONG.
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:09 PM
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2. I don't get "When fuel climbs, gas stations must shrink their profit margin to remain competitive."
Why?
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Cairycat Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:22 PM
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3. Supply and demand
people drive less when prices go up, especially up sharply. You might not feel like you as an individual are cutting back much - but it evidently has a cumulative effect for the gas stations.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:25 PM
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4. Differing amounts of "cushion."
Some companies backed up by large corps may have a large supply of cheap gas on hand when the prices start to rise. They can keep their prices relatively low(er) while other stations without such a cushion have to increase prices so as not to lose money outright. So, the net effect is everyone eaking profit right to the margin.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:46 PM
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6. and as a percentage...
If gas is at $2.00 and they keep 20 cents per gallon that's 10 percent

But if gas is at $3.00 and they keep 20 cents per gallon, that's 7.5%... the percentage of profit is smaller, but earnings stay the same.

So, if they buy 1000 gallons of gas to fill the tank, they can look at it as earning $200 either way, or they can look at it as investing 50% more to earn the same return.

Local guy I go to gave up on selling gas because the margin was so low, and he had to pay for it all up front, then hope prices didn't drop before he could sell it. Even then, on a whole tanker full of gas, he'd only make a few hundred bucks if he was lucky. Plus he had EPA and other requirements to worry about, safety, etc. So now he just does service.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:51 PM
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7. This is interesting...
Your debit card might be a convenient way to pay for gas, but it’s a no-win proposition. When you swipe a debit card at the pump, the bank doesn’t know how much money you’ll be spending until you’ve finished pumping. So to make sure you have the funds to cover the purchase, some stations ask banks to automatically set aside some of your money: That amount can be $20 or more. That means even if you just topped off your tank for $10, you could be out $30, $50, even $100 until the station sends over its bulk transactions, which can take up to three days. If your funds are running low, you might end up bouncing a check in the meantime—even though you had the money in your account.

Little bastards. Last week I was searching the Google for serious drawbacks to paying for things with a debit card, and could find few. But this is one to keep in mind, at least if you play things close to the bone with the money in your account, or have to.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:44 PM
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8. If this guy travels on the Florida Turnpike, he would save
a lot more money by filling up before traveling. I know, because I have traveled between South Florida and Georgia many times and found the gas much more expensive on the Turnpike. Unfortunately, I never had enough gas to get to the end of the Turnpike and had to fill up almost at the end. Once I would get off the Turnpike into Georgia or Florida the price dropped drastically at the gas stations.

"Faced with such instability, Gainesville, Fla., resident Steven King plans ahead: “If I know I’m going out of town, I try not to buy gas so I can fill up after I leave.” King says he can save 10 cents a gallon by purchasing gas on the road. You’d be similarly wise to shop around—with prices constantly in motion, the cheapest gas may not be at the same station every time."
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