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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:37 PM
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There is a constitutional argument to be made in regards to healthcare
With out health care one's pursuit of life liberty and happiness is a gamble, which means we are not ensured these rights by our creator.

Government should be the great equalizer, not maintain a system only affordable by those with the resources to pay for it.

Who is going to be denied because an insurance company decided it needed to focus more of it's treasure on being in business rather than taking care of business? How many lives are being spent so the insurance murderers can convince us and congress of their necessity? We need our health, our lives, not bureaucracy for profit.

The health bureaucracy has more power over peoples lives then the people who live them when we need them. If we are not accepted by insurers we are denied our rights granted by our constitution. The Government was supposed to be the great equalizer not enabler of tyranny over it's own population.

We need a solution and it won't come from where the problem came from.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:48 PM
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1. Reading your post I think of the little girl in SICKO
Who is denied health care by Kaiser, and she dies. There is a term on the books for this "criminal indifference and negligence resulting in death" which, had the family been wealthier and had access to lawyers, might have resulted in a lawsuit that perhaps would have shut Kaiser in California DOWN.

The insurers feed on us and also on the politicians. It is all so depressing.

And how would we get a case in court like the one you are proposing? I think it is a great idea, but at every turn we would be rebuffed. The Constitution is not even allowed in the lower courts, judges have successfully kept citations/provisions of the Constitution out of court cases, and also they have kept precedent set by the Supreme Court out of lower court cases.

It is all such a challenge.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:09 PM
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2. The court of public opinion works better
Edited on Sun May-31-09 02:20 PM by libertypirate
Congress won't enable a murderous enterprise that is in the business of denying inalienable rights for profit.

Insurance has become a gateway to personal liberty. Health is the key to ones life's pursuits and achievement of happiness.

They kill people for profit then use the proceeds of their crime to convince us of how they enable our lives. They use the same proceeds to convince our congress that killing people is good business.

Courts take too long. Nobody wants money from a murderer trying to convince us of their innocence.

Kind of why Cheney is not so popular.
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