The polls are up. The polls are down. The polls are often upside down. What do the polls say?

I was going for a cadence in the thread title. Its in my head. I hope it made it to yours.

Aaaaanyway ....... polls.

Every time they come out, they get endlessly flogged and spun in the media.

But ya know ..... there's a polling statistic I'd like to see discussed.

Today's Moron/Ipso/Facto (or whatever) poll shows generic Democrats with their lowest favorability since Moby Dick was a minnow. They show the generic Democrat going down to the generic repubican.

The spin is that the Dems suck and are getting suckier.

What is unanswered is who is saying this. Nobody talks about that unless talking about that supports the spinner's agenda. The spinners are almost all repubican supporters or corporate media types. They ahve an agenda and that agenda is not helped by the answer to my question.

Who says the Democrats suck?

I think many Democrats are, right now, saying Democrats suck.

If true, then the polls are not good news for repubs. At best, they're neutral.

I also think that the conventional take-us-for-granted thinking is not without merit. When it comes down to it, even the most disgusted Democrat will never vote for a repubican. And the more pissed off the Democrat is, the more likely he actually is to vote. If you're not paying attention, you're not pissed off, right?

Anyway, that's my take on today's poll numbers.

I continue to think we'll be just fine in the fall. I am not so silly as to think we won't lose a few races. I even think we could lose the governor's seat in my own Maryland, for example. But on balance, the national party will do fine and we'll maintain our majority standing in both houses.

Its all in the polls.

Or not.

I really felt down tonight when I watched Tweety talking about this. I kept thinking we would get a bump from passing HCR.

Now I'm sitting here thinking, oh, great, we will probably have Palin as President and then the R's in control of Congress. And of course the R's are already in control of the Supreme Court.

Please someone tell me my fears are completely unjustified. I mean tell me in a way I can actually believe it.

He makes shit up. He develops a few theories each week and flogs them endlessly and repeatedly. He hopes he's right once in a while. When he is, we all get to hear about it. Apart from that, he's a weasel.

I'd love to know more about how those polls were conducted, etc. I wonder if they are flawed polls?

Sorry! I couldn't resist. :hide:

It is poking sticks in eyes. *Almost* none of it is serious.

DU has devolved, in many ways, into an ongoing, ever escalating gang fight. Even the peaceful people participate through the childish recs and unrecs of every stupid fucking thread posted. For the most part, this is about other posters and ways to get under their skins. It happens in the reverse, too, lest I be seen as calling out one group over another.

high single to double digit swings regarding the same issues between USA, Rasmussen, Pew, CNN/AP, etc - if you've ever worked a union office during a contract/strike scenario; in the heat of trying to keep the message to union members to stay tight & truthful you'll know. Its all in how you phrase the Q, response options & skip patterns, also who is funding the sample

But I do like your little ditty, Stinky. Kind of like a Dr. Seuss book! LOL

Granny! :smoooooch:

Vote early and vote often. :) OK, so you can't vote often.

Here's the deal, IMO. During the primaries vote for the leftist candidate possible. Hell, vote CPUSA. The more progressive candidates there are who get votes, the more progressives there are who will get a CHANCE at election in the general election. Eventually, you actually get some REAL progressives elected.

BUT when and if your guy/gal gets defeated in the primary, DO NOT GET PISSED AND NOT VOTE IN THE GENERAL! If you have to, hold your nose and vote AGAINST the Republican. During the 60s there were a LOT of Republicans who were MORE liberal than some Democrats. That hasn't been the case since then.

IOW during the general election, even the WORST Dem is better than the BEST Republican.