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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:33 PM Original message |
The Vatican has declared the Pope immune from testifying or being sued |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Wow -- just like Bush/Cheney! |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. This is an Historic Challenge to the Integrity of the People of Italy, Remember..."Nicholas's Gift?" |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
102. Anonymous robbers? |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. They made announcements and appeals. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 08:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Next thing you know the pope will hire Ari Fleischer as a publicist |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. if he's sovereign, we can ban him from coming here because of his |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. good work if you can get it |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. So the final answer is... |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The Vatican is its own country |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Wanna bet? (edited) |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. So now that weve suffered through Bush we think no country is sovereign? |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. The Vatican is not a country. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Vatican. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Vatican City Is An Internationally Recognized Country With Its Own Laws |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Um...claiming sovereignty and everyone's agreeing is pretty much what makes a country a country. nt. |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 04:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
88. Technically, the Vatican does have an army |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 05:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
90. The Swiss guard the Vatican |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Saddam was a head of state too. He enjoyed his sovereign immunity right to the gallows |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. And I'm glad |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. can we invade? |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. So the vatican is pro-pedophile. |
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flying rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. Nice pic! |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Why the creepy picture? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Covering up these crimes is creepy. Nice touch about "we" deriding conservatives btw. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. How the hell would you know that? |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. WTF indeed |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. All Catholics may not be kid touchers, but all Catholics ARE supporters of a pedophiliac institution |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Got your pedophilia-colored glasses on, I see |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Funny, I thought that my obvious bias was indicated by my use of the lower case "church" |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. If you must know, it's Apologist. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I think you are not keeping up with the facts. nt |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Which facts? |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. This post is about this Pope and the institution. |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. No straw Pope here. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. My aren't we defensive? eom |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I love that response! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Deleted message |
Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Run that by a debate instructor. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Tragically, Arguments On DU Have Never Had To Pass Any Kind Of Logic Test |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. True about the Logic Test. But... |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. But Here's the Disconnect: No One Has to Be a Catholic |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. That's ridiculous. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. You're Correct: It's Ridiculous |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Your black and white approach... |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. "I'm certain the Church would agree with your assessment there" |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 05:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
89. Only on matters of faith |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:26 PM Original message |
He spent five years learning from the lowest scum on the face of the Earth. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. why did he spend decades shielding peodphiles from criminal charges then? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. ROFL!!!!!!! |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Maybe I'm not up on the latest. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Try 200 molested deaf kids in Milwaukee directly linked to the man in the "creepy" photo. |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Thanks, I hadn't read about the Milwaukee travesty. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. oh bullshit. he was trying to hide the scandal. |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Thanks for the link. n/t |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
71. That Was Nicely Done. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Here's a better picture |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
80. Wow! |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. Yeah and the priests aren't pedophiles because the children were over 13 |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
86. Leaving aside the many substantative rebuttals to your post, many of which folks have helpfully made |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
97. Curious about what evidence you used to form opinion about pope's personal views |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. After the force fucks up your face |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. OK, so I wasn't the only person who saw the similarity... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I see it each & every time time I see Pope Bennie |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
78. yeah, I saw it... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. A Pope fired Archbishop Hunthausen and a Pope appointed his replacement. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
64. All bishops are appointed by the Pope, and report to him |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Right. That was my point. Hunthausen was my local example. If I didn't know |
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elfin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. Surprise?? Nah |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. But what about the cover up and crimes that happened PRIOR to his becoming the "head of State?" |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. Unfortunately the Vatican is right. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. the church has already had to sell off properties in Ireland |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. The Church is still the biggest landowner in Ireland. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. what are you talking about? |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. The 'world view' YOU mentioned. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. the world view I mentioned... that it's okay to abuse children and deny equality to women? |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yes, that one. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. i have declared spanone immune from the pope |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 03:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
60. you said it. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
26. He might be exempt but his minions and property across the world are not. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Interesting idea. |
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marybourg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. Isn't the Pope infallible? nt. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Not according to Catholic theology. Twice in all of Church history, |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
39. When we were kids we called that "kings ex". nt |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Does the Haig take cases like this? nt |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Al Haig is deceased. But there is always Den Haag/The Hague. nt |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #49 |
93. Did you have a good time being a jackass? Do you feel superior |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. Protect the Church as a business' CEO would. |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
54. If anyone cares to contact |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
61. Just like the Mafia. nt |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
62. Lawyer up Pope. That's the modern way to deal with mea culpa crap |
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western mass (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
63. *Now* I understand why the Church is so against birth control |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
91. no, the Catholic church has always preferred to breed its followers |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
66. Abra cadabra! Christ's vicar is immune to Earthly laws. Ta-dah!!! |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
68. Scary Fucking Freak, Isn't He? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. That's why George Lucas cast him as Emperor Palpatine |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
72. Oh, well if the _Vatican_ says so... |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
75. Well, the Vatican is it's own country |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #75 |
92. They rarely leave it anyway |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
77. Could the UN or the Hague do anything? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
82. Tried to rec but too late... Can you imagine if they were some other group |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
83. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nazi popes fuck off!!! |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
85. hey . . . dude's infallible . . . what he says goes . . . just ask him . . . |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
87. Okay, now he's TRYING to look like Emperor Palpatine. |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
94. Hahaha - "In my little world, I am the KING!!!" |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
95. How come the Pope looks like Count Dracula? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
96. How nice for him. I suppose at his age, he doesn't want to travel anyway |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
100. And, he's got an army of ruler wielding penguins to back him up. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
103. What a sweet looking man. |
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