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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:30 AM
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The Collapse of Complex Business Models (and Societies too).
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In 1988, Joseph Tainter wrote a chilling book called The Collapse of Complex Societies. Tainter looked at several societies that gradually arrived at a level of remarkable sophistication then suddenly collapsed: the Romans, the Lowlands Maya, the inhabitants of Chaco canyon. Every one of those groups had rich traditions, complex social structures, advanced technology, but despite their sophistication, they collapsed, impoverishing and scattering their citizens and leaving little but future archeological sites as evidence of previous greatness. Tainter asked himself whether there was some explanation common to these sudden dissolutions.

The answer he arrived at was that they hadn’t collapsed despite their cultural sophistication, they’d collapsed because of it. Subject to violent compression, Tainter’s story goes like this: a group of people, through a combination of social organization and environmental luck, finds itself with a surplus of resources. Managing this surplus makes society more complex—agriculture rewards mathematical skill, granaries require new forms of construction, and so on.

Early on, the marginal value of this complexity is positive—each additional bit of complexity more than pays for itself in improved output—but over time, the law of diminishing returns reduces the marginal value, until it disappears completely. At this point, any additional complexity is pure cost.

Tainter’s thesis is that when society’s elite members add one layer of bureaucracy or demand one tribute too many, they end up extracting all the value from their environment it is possible to extract and then some.

The ‘and then some’ is what causes the trouble. Complex societies collapse because, when some stress comes, those societies have become too inflexible to respond. In retrospect, this can seem mystifying. Why didn’t these societies just re-tool in less complex ways? The answer Tainter gives is the simplest one: When societies fail to respond to reduced circumstances through orderly downsizing, it isn’t because they don’t want to, it’s because they can’t.

In such systems, there is no way to make things a little bit simpler – the whole edifice becomes a huge, interlocking system not readily amenable to change. Tainter doesn’t regard the sudden decoherence of these societies as either a tragedy or a mistake—”Under a situation of declining marginal returns collapse may be the most appropriate response”, to use his pitiless phrase. Furthermore, even when moderate adjustments could be made, they tend to be resisted, because any simplification discomfits elites.


When the value of complexity turns negative, a society plagued by an inability to react remains as complex as ever, right up to the moment where it becomes suddenly and dramatically simpler, which is to say right up to the moment of collapse. Collapse is simply the last remaining method of simplification.


http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2010/04/the-collapse-of-complex-business-models/
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:42 AM
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1. We're seeing it right now
Wall Street bonuses will go up 10% over last year's bonus regardless of whether it is possible to extract it out of the economy or not.

The good news is that while societies can't respond, individuals can. People can adapt to new circumstances and it is the ones who do adapt that make the wheels of evolution turn.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:56 AM
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3. Exactly..
.... I'm responding right now. I'm moving out of the big city into the country. I'm moving from a large house suitable for raising kids into one half the size. I'm concentrating on energy efficiency and will be able to live on hugely reduced energy resources.

And I have the distinct feeling I'm not the only one.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 08:12 AM
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6. you are not the only one
I have done the same.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:53 AM
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2. Is our society dynamic enough to change?
I think it is...

That's the only flaw I see in the argument.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:06 AM
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4. A good explanation for why, exactly, there is still a huge
fucking gaping hole in Manhatten 9 years later.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 08:01 AM
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5. kicking so I can find it later :)
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:00 AM
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7. I'm not sure the "collapse" model is universally applicable
I may be shooting my mouth off here because I haven't read the book, but a couple of objections immediately come to mind.

One is that the kind of catastrophic collapse exemplified by the three cases cited may be merely the "perfect storm" version of the process, intensified by environmental or other disasters.

China, for example, has gone through a repeated cycle of collapse and renewal for three thousand years without ever reaching a point of catastrophic failure. And though the Western Roman Empire collapsed, the Eastern Roman Empire successfully retooled itself as the Byzantine Empire and kept on going for another thousand years.

A second objection would be that languages regularly go through a process of complexification followed by radical simplification -- over-elaborate systems of verb conjugation get boiled down, long words drop a few syllables -- which suggests that it's well within human capacities to manage the transition.

And third, even what looks like a devastating failure if you're part of the elites that are being disenfranchised may be experienced far differently from the other side. The fall of several top-heavy empires in the Middle East at the end of the Bronze Age supposedly led to a dark age that lasted for several centuries. But somehow both the alphabet and iron-working developed during that "dark" period.

And in Greece, where the fall of the old elite was so complete that the very word for king, "wanax," vanished except as an element in personal names, the dark age was the necessary prelude to the glories of Homeric poetry and the rise of classical civilization.

So yes, we may well be overdue for a great simplification. But that doesn't necessary mean the collapse of civilization. It could turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to us.

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