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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:13 AM
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China set to report record trade DEFICIT (not surplus) for March
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 09:14 AM by Statistical
Say goodbye to China's "export economy" paradigm. In a stunning development for trade hawks, and pretty much anyone who follows the biggest liquidity bubble in history, China Daily has announced China is about to announce a record trade deficit (yes, not surplus, deficit) for March. This makes the whole CNY undervaluation debate pretty much moot, as even China now moves into the ranks of net importers. From China's official daily newspaper: "The country will probably see a "record trade deficit" in March thanks to surging imports" and "will "fight back" if Washington labels China a currency manipulator." Perhaps this finally explains where all the excess liquidity has gone: with China now not exporting to the US consumer, it has instead refocused on its own "middle" class. This means that Chinese administrators are much more focused on maintaining a stable economy, and will be much more concerned about economic overheating, which goes in line with the recent indications of material liquidity tightening out of Beijing. Market News reports that the actual deficit will come in at $8 billion for March, the first deficit since April 2004, when the gap was $2.26 billion.

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The scariest implication: China is quickly running out of dollars which it can then recycle into US Treasuries. This is surely the biggest nightmare scenario for Tim Geithner. While this explains the decline in indirect bidding, it also may go to refute the whole premise of China being behind the direct UK-based bidders is flawed. And if so, is it merely just the Federal Reserve doing all the buying in a covert fashion (via BlackRock or otherwise) as some of the more conspiratorially-minded market followers have speculated?

Here is the most recent prophetic insight from Edwards, as of March 2, pertaining to this critical shift:

Clearly to the extent that the rise in China?'s official reserves depended on the size of its trade deficit, there will be reduced purchases of US Treasuries. But China has, in part, merely been swapping official dollar purchases of US Treasuries with surging imports of dollar-denominated commodities on the trade account.


http://www.zerohedge.com/article/stunner-china-set-announce-record-trade-deficit-march

So China rising import demand (emergence of consumer middle class) would be great news except for the fact that we are running record budget deficits. Someone needs to buy up that excess debt. Debt like anything else is subject to supply and demand and the "price" of debt is interest rates. If debt issuance remains at record highs and demand for debt falls we could see interest on national debt spike.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:25 AM
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1. Now this will throw a wrench into the global domination plan.
Quick, everyone look in their couches for change.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:56 AM
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3. An optimist would say that this would force us to spend within our means.
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 10:45 AM by Statistical
Today that requires a substantial cut to department of defense. We simply can no longer afford to field a Navy for example that is larger than entire rest of worlds Navies combined and then doubled.

I am not talking about stripping DOD to the bones just accepting reality and making substantial cuts.

Then again I am not an optimist.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 09:55 AM
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9. Yooz talkin crazy now.
But, I like it.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:28 AM
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2. This is quite remarkable... but I guess its the natural development of an affluence middle class.
However few would have expected this considering their enormous export business.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:11 AM
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4. Hello? Nobody cares? Rising demand for goods from Chinese middle class? MEH.
Maybe I should have titled it "Why I unfriended a facebook 'friend'"
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:17 AM
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5. Don't worry
They are just trying to digest it in a way that makes both Chinese trade surpluises bad (as the doomers have long claimed) and Chinese trade deficits also bad (as they doubtless will). It takes a while to work out how to do a 360 ya know!


Funny thing is both could be considered bad in different ways, but that would require subtlety and nuance. Give em time. Personally I'm not too worried. T Bill interest rates are likely to go up, but that was inevitable anyway and an increasing middle class in a country that size is likely to boost exports from the US too. I'm all for maximizing global demand for production.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:44 AM
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6. 8 billion a month? That's pocket change here in the states.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:25 AM
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7. As pointed out in other articles, China owns less than a trillion dollars of our debt
Contrary to popular belief, they are not financing all of our deficit or even the vast majority of it.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:27 AM
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8. I'm not interested in China's trade deficit--I'm interested in its balance of trade with the *US*.
Any news about that? :silly: :hi:
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