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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:10 PM
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Palm Beach rich people have "cracker ball" to mock the poor. aren't they cute?
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 01:20 PM by Hannah Bell
http://www.page2live.com/2010/04/05/palm-beach-society-honors-white-trash/


sculptor susie phipps cochran is a sculptor only because she happens to be the spawn (great-granddaughter) of andrew carnegie's partner henry phipps -- whose heirs' continuing millions & billions were founded on the murder & bleeding of the working class.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/peopleevents/pande04.html

course, she doesn't have to support herself on her art; she's also an "investor," using the funds originating in working class blood 100 years ago.

her daughter = "professional wind surfer".

wow, soooooo enlightened & superior to ordinary working stiffs.




phipps & her peeps = "white trash" that lives on the blood of others while patting itself on the back for being soooo classy.

your rulers & owners. the "investors" who took down the entire economy to support their dilletante lives.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:11 PM
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1. crackerball fundraiser?

themed fundraiser? I didn't think they were merely just making fun
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:13 PM
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2. no, they're also to raise money for their friends' dillentantish pet art projects
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 01:14 PM by Hannah Bell
& mutual scam societies & write said "philanthropy" off on their taxes.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:14 PM
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3. These people are insufficiently taxed.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:17 PM
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5. +1
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:20 PM
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6. Bingo! Back to Eisenhower's tax rates!!
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:03 PM
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37. eisenhower's tax rates are a myth
the base rate was high but they could write off damned near every penny they spent.

I would be surprised if the net tax was much more than it is now.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 08:01 PM
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48. But the deduction have NOT changed that much, so the top rate is important
Now, the big difference is how we treat short term (Investments held less then Five Years) and long Term (Investments held more then five years). Prior to Reagan, long term capital gain was subject a a 50% disregard, i.e. if you made a Million Dollars from an investment you held for 5 years, you only paid taxes on 1/2 of it or 1/2 Million Dollars. i.e, you paid 90% taxes on HALF of what you earned (Net effect was a 45 % tax rate). The top rate wad aimed at people who earned they money from Investments and the Stock market NOT people who worked for wages or Salary. Given that fact, the 50 % disregard encouraged long term investments i.e. you could take home twice as much IF the profit was from something you held five years as oppose to what you earned THIS YEAR.

The High Tax rate had several positive effectives, things like manipulating the Stock Market did not happened, the main reason being any such manipulation was short term gain and taxed as 90% NOT 45 %. Thus people avoided such gains prior to Reagan for they made more money investing and holding on to the investment NOT selling and buying stocks and bonds.

Reagan Changed this reduced both long term and short term capital gains to the same low 32% rate. The rationale was inflation but the real effect was to make long term investments (Buildings, factories etc) having the same return as someone who bet a stock would go up or down (Under the old rule, the former if held five years taxed at 1/2 the rate of the later).

When I was in Collage in the Late 1970s early 1980s, my finance books were all saying that a good financial leader was someone who was looking not just five years down the road but 20-30 years down the road. Today we have returned to what it was BEFORE the above high tax rate, long term is anything held for one year or longer (And no one thinks in terms of more then one year) and short term is emphasized and it is everything that shows a profit within one year.

Just pointing out the problem is the main deduction encouraged long term thinking, but that was abolished in 1982 under Reagan, and we are reaping what was sowed under Reagan when he eliminated long term capital gains.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:40 PM
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16. A-effin'-men. nt
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:43 PM
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19. There *is* such a thing as having too much money
inherited wealth generates stupidity
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:20 PM
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45. +1
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:23 PM
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46. +1
They definitely have more time on their hands to spend with an accountant, looking for the most minute tax exemptions.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:16 PM
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4. Check out the comments section. LOL
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:22 PM
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7. You do know what a Florida 'cracker' is. don't you? The term refers to an early settler of
the state. Has nothing to do with 'white trash' or being poor.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker
Florida Cracker refers to original colonial era American pioneer settlers of the state of Florida, and their descendants.

The term is used as a proud or jocular self-description. Since the huge influx of new residents into Florida from the northern parts of the United States, and Latin America, in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, "Florida Cracker" is used informally by some Floridians to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations. It is considered a source of pride to be descended from "frontier people who did not just live but flourished in a time before air conditioning, mosquito repellent, and screens."<3>

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:27 PM
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10. & you do know what the connotation is, & why, for example, one of the partiers sports a black eye
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 01:28 PM by Hannah Bell
& another sports a fake pregnancy.


yeah, because "cracker" means "pioneer," & pioneers were always pregnant & engaged in bar fights.

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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:23 PM
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26. Proud Florida Cracker here. 7 Generations
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:50 PM
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33. Right, the woman wearing the Hooters t-shirt is clearly channeling 19th century Florida settlers
:eyes:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:24 PM
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35. I never knew Florida was settled by women wearing Hooters shirts.
Damn, I missed out. :party:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:23 PM
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8. My g-g-grandfather was asked by Carnegie to go into steel with him, but he turned him down.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:26 PM
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9. The French nobility also used to have similar 'theme' balls: Dressing up like peasants,
eating scraps of food with their bare hands, etc.. all in 'good fun'. -And- look what happened to them.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:32 PM
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12. the rich simultaneously denigrate the lower classes & mystify them as more "authentic".
witness marie antoinette & her little playhouse peasant village.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hameau_de_la_reine

Here, it was said, the Queen and her attendants would dress as shepherdesses and milkmaids. Particularly docile, hand-picked cows would be cleaned. These cows would be milked by the ladies, with porcelain milk churns painted to imitate wood specially made by the royal porcelain manufactory at Sèvres. These churns and pails featured the Queen's monogram. The simple and rustic ambiance at the hameau has been evoked in paintings by Fragonard; however, inside the farmhouse, the rooms were far from simple, featuring the luxury and comfort to which Marie Antoinette and her ladies were accustomed.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:41 PM
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18. I was just gonna say.....

It's like an occasional Potemkin Village, same attitude, and will likely yield the same results. Laugh now, assholes.

k&r
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:30 PM
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11. "Bet if they asked everyone to dress in their "Urban blackface best", there'd be a whole lotta
complaints from the NAACP!"

And there it is... there is no Anti-Defamation League for poor and homeless folk!!

Who wants to start one?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:32 PM
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13. Those people don't look Jewish to me.
Neither do their names. Yet the commentary is overwhelmingly anti-Semitic.

Correction: There's a Bernstein in the bunch. Well, that explains it.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:52 PM
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21. i don't see any such "overwhelming" preponderance of anti-semitic comments.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:05 PM
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22. yes, some of the comments really got to me
Some major white-supremacy going on there, at least from one particularly sick poster, who named himself BigBlakBootie....
I've seen that in comments before, white supremacists using an insulting "I'm Black" screen name.

really screwed up people out there.


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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:25 PM
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27. And the commentary is more concerned with "reverse racism" than anything else.
Way to miss the point, teabaggers.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:01 PM
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42. Yeah I noticed.
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 06:30 PM by Lilyeye
It would have been one thing if the people having the party were black, so I don't understand why they're bringing up the parties that mock black people. In this case, its about classism, not racism. So their reserve racist claims are stupid. Anyway, these type of parties disgust me greatly. It always seems to be idiots with money and their brats having parties like this. Maybe one day these sacks of shit will know how it feels to be mocked. Hell they might find themselves in a similar situation.

Edit: Is that a black baby doll that woman on the far left is holding? Someone mentioned it in the comments because I didn't notice it at first. That shows even more how dumb the "reserve racism" comments are. Does facts and common sense matter anymore?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:34 PM
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14. Nice, they have a fan...
Cletus thinks they are cute...

"Hey Enus get over here, I see some hot tail."
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:38 PM
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15. Are you a friend of theirs?

seems like....
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:48 PM
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20. sure does....
:shrug:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:46 PM
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40. As I'm sure you and your friend above are often told this word...
no. :eyes:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:41 PM
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17. Barf. that pretty well sums up my entire reaction. nt
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:09 PM
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23. while I don't like seeing the Rich mocking the Poor, (and being applauded
in the local paper for it), I'd say we do a similar thing here, me included: redneck bashing, from a "smart" vs "stupid" point of view.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:13 PM
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24. So what makes you any better?

For a worker to ape the behavior of the ruling class is as stupid as it gets.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:20 PM
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25. Huh? what are you attacking me for?

I said we here, me included, mock "rednecks" and stupidity a lot...

I don't see where you're coming from.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:34 PM
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30. There ya are

Your 'we' is a bit too inclusive. I do not mock my friends and neighbors, not for their poverty, lack of education or misguided politics. I may not agree with them but I can expect a helping hand if I'm in a spot, on the side of the road for instance. The rich will drive by laughing.

Which side are you on?
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:43 PM
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31. jesus christ, blindpig.... I'm talking about DU in **!general!**.
just look at any "moran" thread....many DU members take great delight in mocking the stupid. I do it too. (I already said twice, I am guilty of it. This is my 3rd admission. How many more times do you want to attack me for saying something I didn't say?)

But good for you that you live by higher standards; I hope I can be as good someday.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:03 PM
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38. Sadly....

this sort of thing is all too prevalent among liberals. Ain't 'higher standards' or 'good', just class consciousness.

Look, I'm not trying to bust your chops, when I moved south 28 years ago from a big city I had some of that arrogance with me but life and getting my politics straight cleared that up. The thing that I've learned is that 'those people' are my people, warts and all, that this sort of thing, like race and religion, are devices used to divide and weaken the working class, to the delight of the ruling class. We cannot afford this sort of divisive behavior, we are at war, class war.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:47 PM
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50. how incredibly bizarre that you ATTACK and INSULT based on misunderstanding me
then neglect to apologize.

If you're going to be scrupulous about good progressive ethics, you should try applying them in your dealings with fellow progressives.

Buddhism teaches that the greatness of the Buddha lay in his behavior as a human being. Meaning that human beings can only show their greatness that is inherent within by their behavior as human beings.

Just something to think about.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:55 PM
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53. I am neither a 'progressive' nor a Buddhist

Your exaggerated touchiness speaks volumes.

In times like these civility is greatly over-rated and indeed an impediment to understanding.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 02:50 PM
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54. It's just philosophy that applies to all. Anyway, your opacity is breathtaking,
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 02:53 PM by BlancheSplanchnik
in terms of self-reflection.

At this point, since there's obviously no hope for mutuality here, all I can suggest is we go have a nice peanut butter and jelly sandwich.



Enjoy
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:48 PM
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41. Don't take the time to reply to people like blindpig, they are better than you
24/7...if ya know what I mean...lol
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:48 PM
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51. it certainly confuscalated me for a bit there!
:)
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:44 PM
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39. If anyone here
dressed the EXACT same way, but added a few 'uhmercan' flags and hung some tea bags off their hat, it would make the greatest page. Their satire would be roundly applauded, their creativity and ability to 'capture the teabaggers movement' would be praised. What's the difference?

:shrug:
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:25 AM
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49. exactly.
I don't know if my post was clear, but that's exactly what I was getting at.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:26 PM
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28. All the money in the world can't buy you a lick of class..
But this kind of thing is no surprise to me. I used to do sound and lights for "society" parties. They'll spend 2 million dollars on a party to raise 50 grand for charity and pat themselves on the back for all the great they are doing.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:34 PM
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29. they get to write off the fund-raising expenses. the charity is for themselves.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:47 PM
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32. You stay classy Palm Beach.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 02:53 PM
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34. So I take it this marks Rush's arrival on the Palm Beach social scene?
:eyes:
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:52 PM
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36. I posted this story this morning and only got 10 replies
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:28 PM
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43. Maybe these assholes need to look in the mirror.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:39 PM
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44. All I can say is 'eeeeeeuwww'. n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:23 PM
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47. This thread is gonna be an AWESOME DISASTER
:rofl:
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:33 PM
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52. the fake outrage machine never disappoints...
I dare not post pictures of the "douchebag" party I went to last year, i'm sure somebody would call it a hate crime.
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