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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 07:12 AM
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People are not "collateral damage." EVER! That term should be
stricken from use as such. It isn't only applicable to military situations.

Once it becomes embedded in the human conscience then it becomes easy to see a lot of people in that light. The people who are denied coverage by insurance companies are seen as collateral damage in order to maximize profits.

At other times, people are written off as "collateral damage" if they get in the way of your beliefs or ideas. Anybody who might have been killed with Dr.Tiller would be regarded as such.

The term reduces people to things not human beings. In that sense thay are disposable. However, for those that loved them, they are now holes in their hearts.

We need to regard them as people all the time in order to understand what the cost is in any situation. To become so callous that we look on them as mere puppets, our souls and hearts are "collateral damage." I believe it can come back to haunt those who have taken that view and then changed their perspective.

The bell is tolling, and we all should hear it.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 07:14 AM
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1. knr.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 07:19 AM
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:01 AM
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3. K & R
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:07 AM
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4. I HATE that term! K&R
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:21 AM
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5. What term would you use to describe innocent people killed
for being in the wrong place or fallen into the cracks or considered disposable by the military leaders or the Corporations?

When I hear or read the words 'collateral damage' the picture I get in my mind is of photos I've seen of children killed by the weapons of war. It seems that no descriptive phrase would be enough, but if we stop using the term then I fear the innocent victims will have no name at all.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:27 AM
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6. How about "innocent victims"?
The reason you see those that are "collateral damage" in those terms is because that is the phrase used all the time IMHO. It is impersonal and unfeeling.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 09:15 AM
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13. I say innocent victims all the time and
I specify innocent children a lot. Why not use as many descriptive terms as possible? That's what I try to do.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:58 AM
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11. How about we start calling them by their name?
Everyone has a name.

Don
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:59 AM
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12. Better idea! nt
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 09:18 AM
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14. I don't think that's even possible when you talk about hundreds of thousands
of innocent people being killed because of the neo-con need to control all the natural resources on the planet.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:27 AM
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7. It's an absolutely disgusting term. They ought to just say,
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 08:54 AM by pinboy3niner
"Death, disability and disfigurement of civilian adults, children and infants." (Ed. for typo)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:44 AM
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8. Let's add "paupered, bereaved, sickened and made homeless."
And anything else we've missed.

Hell wishes it were war.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:55 AM
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9. Agree. K&R
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:56 AM
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10. Thats what Timothy McVeigh called the children he blew up
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 08:58 AM by NNN0LHI
Someones antenna should have went up right then and there.

Don
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 09:35 AM
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15. This is not new, and won't be dropped anytime soon. Your post
seems to suggest this is something that is starting and should stop.

It isn't starting, it's the way it's always been discussed and I doubt your outrage will change it. Those that find it an appropriate term don't give a shit about you, your offended sensibilities, or anyone who gets between them and the resources they intend on dominating.

Oh, and they never will care either.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:46 AM
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16. If I stopped trying to change things,
I would never get out of bed. My post actually shows how shamefully I have let the term fly by me for a long time.

I don't care if they don't worry or care about how I feel. I know they don't, but if people stop pushing nothing ever changes. Ever.

So thank you for trying to drop rain on the post. I was drenched a long time ago pursuing what I thought was right.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:32 PM
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17. The "rain" you speak of is already there, I just made note of it, I didn't create it.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 05:30 AM
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19. Bless your heart!
It certainly took a very negative post to point that out. Was it your turn to rain on the parade?

I expect to have people who don't agree with me. However, for the life of me I can't figure out why you posted what you did in the manner in which you did.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:08 PM
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18. the simple purpose of the term is to marginalize/trivialize the death of innocents
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