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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:44 PM
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Neocon Frank Gaffney: Obama will have the loss of Iraq as one of its most signal accomplishments

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/06/wars-outcome-now-in-doubt/

GAFFNEY: War's outcome now in doubt

by Frank J. Gaffney Jr.


Back in February, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. declared: "I am very optimistic about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration." Even for a politician much given to strategic ineptitude compounded by foot-in-mouth disease, that was a doozy.

As has been pointed out innumerable times since, if Iraq turns out to be a truly "great achievement" in any ordinary sense of the word, Mr. Biden and President Obama - two of the most insistent opponents of George W. Bush's efforts to consolidate Iraq's liberation - are among the last people in Washington who should take credit.

Worse yet, unfortunately for the Iraqi people and others who love freedom, it looks increasingly as though the Obama administration will have the loss of Iraq as one of its most signal accomplishments.

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It may be that Team Obama is calculating that the American people are so sick of these conflicts and the associated costs in blood and treasure that they will consider cutting our losses to be a "great achievement" - irrespective of the consequences. After all, a generation ago, their ideological forefathers led the United States in abandoning the South Vietnamese, without obvious political fallout here at home. To the extent that Republicans are increasingly signaling a determination to run next fall on a platform silent on national security matters, they may be right, at least in the short run.

There should be no doubt, however, that the repercussions of the Obama administration losing Iraq will cost us dearly in the future as adherents to Shariah around the world are reinforced in their conviction of that our defeat and submission is preordained. Even if, at the moment, we cannot fully comprehend the implications of such a perception, we will know from here on out whose "great achievement" precipitated the resulting horror for America and the rest of what was once the Free World.



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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:47 PM
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1. Total lies and information manipulation.
Bush not only did an illegal war, he lied about it, then miss-managed it, most likely for an agenda that was more along his thinking.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:47 PM
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2. Lol... These guys are fucking idots... What the hell is a loss in either Iraq or Afghanistan
anyway? No one has ever defined what a loss or a win is in either of these countries.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:51 PM
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3. Nixon and Kissinger were Democrats and Liberals?
WHO KNEW?

Unfortunately many will believe this bilge

Oh and for the record I will give this one partially to Gafney, they WERE "liberals" when you look at the modern GOP, just not Liberals for the age.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:55 PM
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4. 'YOU LIE', you PNAC bastard!
We would not have gone to Iraq if it wasn't for you and your freaky alien lizard friends.



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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:55 PM
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5. How could this be possible?
In Frank's world, Bush won the war, the Iraqis welcomed the Americans as liberators, they all painted their fingers purple and voted for democracy, freedom and Jesus and lived happily ever after, right?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:57 PM
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6. Gaffney will be one of those guys who reemerges in the next Republican administration.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 11:58 PM by arcadian
Like Bolton, mark my words.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 12:18 AM
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7. The mutilated corpse of Iraq stinks. It has stunk to Heaven for many years.
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 12:23 AM by kenny blankenship
Iraq was down, and we kept kicking it --8 years, 10 years, 12 years. Half a million dead Iraqi children were deemed not too large a price to pay to keep Iraq poor and her dictator humiliated. But provided their deaths were stretched out over enough time, half a million dead and rotting children can be buried, and kept from offending American nostrils. It was not too high a price, we said, because we just billed Iraqi parents for it. We barely noticed, and when we noticed, we didn't care. Then we eviscerated what country remained, and we spilled its shit and blood everywhere. The sepsis and stench began to set in from one end to the other. They fought to get rid of us, but they couldn't get rid of us. The Sunnis fought to get rid of us. The Sadrists fought to get rid of us. But they couldn't budge us from their land. Then they fought each other, doing our work for us. And now there is no country called Iraq left anymore. There is the sand and there is the oil under the sand, but one out of every 25 Iraqis is dead. And for every one of those dead there is another that lives as a displaced refugee. Even if the bludgeoned and humiliated Iraqis could trust each other, the country they lived in is gone. They are fighting over nothing. But they will keep fighting, because of their ancient quarrels and because each side blames the other for what we have done to them. They will fight if we stay, they will fight if we go.

No, Mr. Gaffney this war's outcome was NEVER IN DOUBT, and that death stench is nothing new. The Iraq War stands now as the long drawn out act of genocide that it was always going to be. Your hero, President Bush, was warned about all this by career State Dept. personnel before he destroyed Iraq, but he wouldn't listen to anyone but his bloodthirsty God.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 12:26 AM
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8. worthy of its own thread
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 01:13 AM
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9. And if that was not enough, pResident bu$h and his bunch of heartless
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 01:16 AM by Amonester
GREEDY war-criminal ba$tard$ BANKRUPTED the U.S. to no end.

The thought that they will never be formally accused of any of their barbaric crimes is sickening.
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