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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 05:55 PM
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Where are the Global Warming Deniers - 92 in NYC Early April - Record Breaker
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 05:57 PM by RamboLiberal
The past week in Pittsburgh we've also been breaking records. Near 90. Where the hell are those Global Warming Deniers who were crowing so damn loud when had the big snow in February and a somewhat normal winter??????????????

Crickets now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell I don't ever remembering breaking out the shorts this early or buying sunscreen!

It was 92 degrees at 1:57 p.m. in Central Park, breaking the record of 89 degrees set April 7 in 1929.

The record for Newark was also shattered, where temperatures reached 91 degrees -- well above the previous record of 85. Trenton, Poughkeepsie, Islip, Bridgeport, and Atlantic City also broke their previous records.

Yes, it's only early April, but the tri-state area felt more like July or August on Wednesday, as the region was hit with a taste of summer.

CBS 2HD Meteorologist John Elliott said those who ventured outside to enjoy the heat should dress appropriately for the unseasonably warm temperatures.

"I want to make sure you have the right clothes, the right shoes, light colored. Don't forget the sunscreen and the water," said Elliott. "Prepare as you would for a scorcher during mid-summer."


http://wcbstv.com/local/april.heat.central.2.1616897.html

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:02 PM
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We hear from them every time there is a snowstorm
as if that anecdotal episode disproves everything.

But the door swings the other way too. We should not use a few hot days in April as prima facie evidence of global warming either.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:25 PM
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7. I'm not but I just want to know where the deniers are
Or even anyone debunking them using this as an example.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:02 PM
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1. Funny you should bring that up.
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 06:03 PM by The Velveteen Ocelot
Here in Minnesota we had a pretty cold, snowy winter (though it never got nearly as cold as winters did 30 years ago), and the global warming deniers, who don't understand the difference between weather and climate, were going on and on about how this was PROOF! that global warming is BS. Of course, unusually heavy snowfalls are actually evidence of warming because warmer air holds more water which condenses and becomes snow, but they don't understand that, either. Nevertheless, the snow and the cold "conclusively proved" that the earth really wasn't getting warmer and Al Gore was full of crap.

But anyhow, spring arrived with a bang last week; it got well into the '70s, which is just about unheard of for early April. In fact, it broke all existing heat records for this time of year. Spring is at least a month early; trees are budding and flowering and all sorts of stuff is sprouting that we wouldn't usually see until the first week in May. And what do the global warming deniers have to say about this?

Cue the crickets.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:03 PM
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2. If it's really cold out today, that doesn't disprove global warming...
...and the fact that it's really hot outside somewhere today shouldn't be held up as proof of global warming.

The proof is in worldwide scientific observations and records over many years' time.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:28 PM
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8. But one piece of evidence is that spring has been debuting
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 06:31 PM by RamboLiberal
earlier many years. NatGeo from 2 years ago.

Washington, D.C.'s famous cherry trees are primed to burst in a perfect pink peak about the end of this month. Thirty years ago, the trees usually waited to bloom until around April 5.

In central California, the first of the field skipper sachem, drab little butterflies, was fluttering about on March 12. Just 25 years ago, that creature predictably emerged there anywhere from mid-April to mid-May.

And sneezes are coming earlier in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. On March 9, when allergist Donald Dvorin set up his monitor, maple pollen was already heavy in the air. Less than two decades ago, that pollen couldn't be measured until late April.

For biologists, these trends are a worrying sign of the ominous effects of global warming.

The fingerprints of human-caused climate change are evident in seasonal timing changes for thousands of species on Earth, according to dozens of studies and last year's authoritative report by the Nobel-prize winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

More than 30 scientists told The Associated Press how global warming is affecting plants and animals at springtime across the country, in nearly every state.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080320-AP-warming-spr.html

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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 09:00 PM
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10. Aye, good point. n/t
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:10 PM
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3. I worry how many animals and people will drop dead from the heat this summer . Here
in MN. it has been 20 degrees above normal. No, the winters surely are different, shorter, less snow, irregular with waters opening much faster and lakes turning green gassing off of the toxic algae. I fear for this summer.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:14 PM
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4. Geologist Connects Regular Changes of Earth's Orbital Cycle to Changes in Climate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8105427

It might be warming, or cooling, but what is the biggest cause? Us, or normal scientific reasons?

The world was once much hotter, then cooler, then hot, etc and so on.

Why did the temp changed in the past, long before we were here?
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:15 PM
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5. In other news, the Yankees had a .500 season in 2010, and Pujols hit 324 homers
:eyes:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:23 PM
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6. In the 70s in Florida...LOL...n/t
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:40 PM
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9. 77 degrees in So AZ. Should be close to 100 degrees or more.
El Nino must still be around!!!!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 09:58 PM
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11. It was almost humorous on the news tonight
They were mentioning ninety in New York, followed up with a short piece on the decimation of the glaciers in Glacier National Park. The anchor obliquely mentioned global climate change. Once. Almost as if he was afraid of the wrath that would be stirred up by linking these two disparate events.
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