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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:19 PM Original message |
Where is the line that separates a society that respects laws from a lawless society? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. He's a major dirt bag. Here's another thread... |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Who is: Obama or Aulaqi? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Aulaqi should step forward as soon as possible to clear all this up. Right? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It is exceedingly difficult to prove a negative.. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Are you suggesting that he should remain in hiding? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. What evidence can you cite that our torture programs are shut down? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Do you have some evidence that they are still running? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I asked you first.. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. If I was working for Al Quaida I would not trust the country that I was |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Would you turn yourself in and trust the goverment to not abuse you? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I could easily seek representation without turning myself in to resolve |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. So you wouldn't turn yourself in then apparently.. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. It appears that you like to jump to conclusions. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I asked a straightforward question which you dodged.. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Again, you're wrong. Nice try, sweetheart. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. With what expectation? Sami al Haj didn't do anything either |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Right wing chewed up all the laws and spit them out --!!! |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Who gets to decide the laws? There are laws against murder but it still happens |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. I don't buy the slippery slope argument |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. HIs citizenship absolutley matters because he derives his rights |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Great. He should hire a lawyer then to prove his innocence. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. He can't hire a lawyer if he's dead. That's the point. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. He's actually not dead and very much alive. That is the point. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. As the order now stands, he could be killed in his lawyer's office. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Why do you keep streching your argument so thin as to exempt this guy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You don't seem to understand what has been ordered. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I'm calling you on your nonsense. He can always hire somebody to represent him. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Excuse me? We turn ourselves into the government because we're innocent? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. You're excused... |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. This is another case of if Bush did it, it would be horrible. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. This is what the UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary and Arbitrary Executions |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Actually, this is a case where Bush's excesses have caused |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. How perfect do you have to be to avoid constituting death squads? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. Those rights come from being a human being, and apply to anyone |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Citizenship guaratees rights. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Who gets to chose which organizations are kill-worthy... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Let me get this straight. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Al Quaida is at war with the USA. Yes or no, sweetheart? Yes or no? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Answer my questions. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. That's great that you can thump your chest and be unafraid. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. How many people have been killed by the US military? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Keep on thumping your chest, sweetheart. You're really good at it. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Thanks. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. You're certainly welcome, sweetheart. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Those are al Qaida's rules of engagement. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. WHo makes that distinction, and are there any more on your kill list? |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. Good post. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. wherever your team says it is |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. SOOOO 2009. This is a brave new world, baby!! n/t |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
17. agreed. this is PR for the right wing votes |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
18. The world knows there is ZERO accountability for any high-up US official |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
26. Even treasonous bastards like this fucker deserve rights. Period. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
28. The line is as arbitrary as the law, because humans are involved |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. there was a line in 2000 |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. He is the one propagating a "lawless society" because he knows he is seen |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. The government has tortured quite a few people who have subsequently been found innocent.. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. How many people have been found innocent have also been let go by the govt? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Would you turn yourself in to be tortured? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Does the Obama administration presently torture prisoners? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Yes, if the govt was going to arrest me, I would call up a lawyer and meet |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Thanks. That's the nugget right there. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. So your answer is no. Thank you, sweetheart! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. There is something magical about being born on US soil |
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