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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:34 PM
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Jeb Bush, Florida Chamber partner on robo-call to overhaul teacher salaries
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Jeb Bush, Florida Chamber partner on robo-call to overhaul teacher salaries


by Michael C. Bender | April 7th, 2010


UPDATE: Gov. Charlie Crist reconsidering his support for the controversial bill.

Former Gov. Jeb Bush stepped his efforts today to rewrite the way public school teachers are paid with a recorded phone call urging Floridians to call their local lawmaker. (Thanks to our partners at WOKV for the tip).

Listen to the call here.

In the 55-second message, Bush says the bill will improve education in Florida, but the its the target of “a massive misinformation campaign.”

Bush says the bill will “close the achievement gap once and for all” and tells the listeners to call their lawmaker and tell them to support the bill, which will be discussed on the House floor today and receive a final vote tomorrow.

(bold type added)

The proposal has ignited a political food fight between some of the heaviest names in the Florida Capitol: The AFL-CIO & the Florida Education Association on one side (see their television ad here) and Jeb Bush and the Florida Chamber of Commerce on the other (see their ads here and here.).




Bush plugs Crist for backing teacher tenure bill. Oops.

Posted by Josh Hafenbrack on April 7, 2010 04:40 PM


Former Gov. Jeb Bush went on national radio today and gave a plug to Gov. Charlie Crist for supporting the controversial teacher tenure bill. "To his credit," Bush told radio host Bill Bennett, Crist supports the idea.

Little did he know, Crist was in Tallahassee changing his tune, saying teacher outrage was weighing heavily on his thinking and hinting at a potential veto.

Bush called the plan to tie teacher pay to student scores and eliminate tenure protections for new teachers “commonsensical” on Bennett's Morning in America program. The House is debating the idea and giving it a final legislative vote Thursday.

“This is where the teaching profession needs to be,” Bush said. “This is pretty controversial in Tallahassee today, but it’s not a punitive gesture. It’s a gesture to turn the teaching profession into a profession.”



More for Florida educators to be angry about

By Valerie Strauss | April 6, 2010; 4:37 PM ET


.....

Now there’s another doozy of a bill that the Republican-led legislature is working on that has teachers, parent, and even school superintendents aghast.

It’s SB 2126, which would expand a program that allows corporations in Florida to contribute to a fund that provides scholarships, or vouchers, for private schools. The corporations can then deduct the amount from their corporate income and insurance premium taxes.

In other words, millions tax dollars that could go to the state to help out in this difficult financial downturn would instead go to send kids to private schools, most of them Christian, Muslim and Jewish.

.....

Never mind that the state is cutting public education (and other) funding and raising tuition at public colleges and universities. Somehow, Florida has money to help corporations help kids go to private religious schools.

Broward County Schools Superintendent James Notter, in an interview with my colleague Nick Anderson said: "I’m adamantly opposed to it. It’s draining off dollars in the Great Recession that aren’t there."

Schools in Florida, he said, have enough trouble already getting funding for what they need, including in his 250,000-student system.

Sadly, big trouble is where the Florida public school system is headed.

Yesterday, the House Education Policy Council held an hours-long hearing about legislation that would end teacher tenure--which would make Florida the first state to do so--and tie teacher pay to standardized test scores. It would also negate the importance of teacher experience, credentials or advanced degrees, and require the creation of standardized tests for every grade in every subject already not assessed by the state’s accountability system.

In Florida, kids will first learn to walk, then talk and then jump right into test-prep.

The Senate has already passed its version, SB6, and the House is expected to pass HB7189 this week. Monday, teachers packed the chamber where the hearing was being held, hoping to get a chance to speak against it during time set aside for public speeches. Most of the people permitted to speak were, of course, supporters of the bill.

After one of a series of amendments to improve the bill was rejected by the council, a few teachers got up and left, sobbing.

There was nothing left for them to do, because the legislators seem intent on making this law, and Gov. Charlie Crist (R) has said he will sign it.

.....




This next snippet I found very interesting. No surprise here:




If you listen to the sponsor of the Senate version, new Florida Republican Party chief Sen. John Thrasher, which I did on a video that I can no longer find on YouTube, you learn that he doesn’t know some basics about the bill’s impact.

For example, when asked by a colleague how many tests would have to be created, he said he didn’t know. When asked how much it would cost, he said he didn’t know. When asked whether there was any marker in the bill that would show its true cost, he hedged.

I also listened to a video in which Thrasher introduced the bill, and some of the language seemed oddly familiar. Then I realized that I had read it before, in a position paper on the Web site of former governor Jeb Bush's Foundation for Florida’s Future.


(bold type added)



Yep. We saw that when it happened:



FL legislation proposes teacher tenure begins after 5 years (Steered by Jeb Bush's Foundation), April 15, 2009




More from Valerie Strauss:


Well, Bush was interested in education as governor; he pushed through the legislature the statewide assessment test known as FCAT. And Bush did strongly boost Thrasher’s ascension to the Republican party chairmanship in February, after Jim Greer was ousted from the post. Now Greer is suing the Republican Party of Florida, claiming it hasn’t abided by a secret pact that it made to get him out of office involving a job that would pay Greer tens of thousands of dollars plus health benefits until his tenure would have been up in 2011, according to this Florida Today story.

Oh. Wait. This is an education blog and that sounds a lot like politics, doesn’t it?

Exactly.

That’s what we’ve got: politicians telling educators what to do, even though the politicians have no idea what works in a classroom and what doesn’t.

It shouldn’t be surprising to learn that no teachers were involved in the drafting of this legislation. Anybody who knows the first thing about education knows that the measures in this bill will make it harder for Florida’s children to get a decent education. Effective teachers will bristle at working under these conditions.

Notter has said it would be harder to attract qualified teachers, which is something of supreme importance to a superintendent. Florida’s Republicans leaders, of course, don’t care. They don’t have to hire the teachers--or get paid according to student test scores.





Just ran across this piece of news today:


Remember this little bit of Jeb's handiwork from 2008?

Jeb Bush's attempt to obliterate FL's church-state separation in November has national ramifications, June 3, 2008




He's now spearheading a new effort via his puppets (John Thrasher in particular) in Florida's legislature for the same egregious constitutional-gutting rampage again this year, to tear down the wall between church and state.


Senate panel pushes vote to drop ban on state funds for religious institutions

By Cristina Silva, Times/Herald Tallahassee Bureau
April 6, 2010


Tallahassee — Separation of church and state is a celebrated American principle, but Republican lawmakers say Florida has too much of it.

The Florida Senate's Education PreK-12 Committee approved a constitutional amendment proposal Tuesday that would repeal a century-old ban on public funding of religious organizations. The 6-2 vote fell along party lines.

It is being pitched as the "religious freedom" bill by Republican leaders, but critics say it is a pro-church effort to abolish Florida's strict divisions between church and government.

If approved by three-fifths of the House and Senate, the bill would be one of many sweeping changes facing voters on the November ballot. It needs 60 percent of the vote to become law.

.....

Conservatives launched an effort to change the Constitution after a court ruling canceled one of Gov. Jeb Bush's voucher programs in 2004 because it funneled money to religious schools.

A tax commission stacked with Bush allies tried to place a similar measure on the 2008 ballot, but the state Supreme Court ruled that the commission overstepped its bounds.





And we know that Jeb Bush will never take NO for an answer. He is hell bent on turning Florida into a fanatical Christian theocracy.





This malignant Republican-controlled Legislature, choreographed by Jeb Bush and his battering ram John Thrasher, has so polluted the lives of everyday Floridians that the immediate future remains stark.







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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:38 PM
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1. Does he not grasp that he's not the governor anymore?
That whole Bush family entitlement mentality again.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:38 PM
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2. Great post, kick and rec. Jeb's right in the middle of this mess.
And I betcha he will run for president in 2012
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:56 PM
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3. The Chamber of Commerce has to be the largest group of organized Assholes ever to walk the planet.
If you're ever in doubt about who to vote for, find out who the "Chamber" is endorsing....and then vote for the other person.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:40 PM
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7. Good advice.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:59 PM
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4. How long before Florida kids realize they can extort their teachers?
"You want me to get any questions right on the test Ms. Crabaple? Show me the money?"

"I'll settle for pizza..."

"Pizza- and beer!"

Teacher says no, and teacher finds no check in the mail... because the test scores don't merit any pay.

Hell- I had a student refuse to take a statewide standardized test entirely, just because he was in a bad mood, and he didn't give a shit. If my pay depended on that test?...

The battle of wits and imaginations will consume a generation of students and teachers... and some students might not make it out alive, or teachers un-locked-up.

Absolutely brilliant. Will the payscale just keep rising and rising as the students score ever-better? A little pizza party, while the teacher enlists some trusted students to help answer all the questions him/herself... teaching might become lucrative indeed... and soon even fourth graders will be able to compose a 20 page paper on the subtle and varied uses of the word horse, as verb; as metaphor; as adjective; as noun; etc. in the Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. Wow, our kids is will be geniusii.

Oh ye politicians of such feeble imaginations...
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:11 PM
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5. More likely is that good teachers will just leave Florida for other states
and mediocre or poor teachers will be the ones who stay and they will design their whole curriculum around the one test. No creativity and no innovation.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:56 PM
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10. I have a better idea- All the teachers should just leave Florida.
Let the politicians teach. With Merit Based Pay, politicians all being geniuses, they should all make a killing... right?

What could go wrong?...
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:13 PM
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6. On the topic of money deciding what is correct. What would happen in this case.
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 11:54 PM by RandomThoughts
Give all the worst people in the world all the money.

Then say for anyone to get money, you have to do what they say.

What direction would society go if people cared most about money?


Now I am not saying the worst people have money, but when money is made without some baseline rules, then the worst actions do make the most money, and who does the worst things, the worst people.


So when I think on the topic you post, if people with money do not think what a person does is right, then that person might be doing it right. That teacher that is not getting big money to reward them is actual proof that the teacher is doing right, and it also proves that big money has no claim to control by things like money.

And since those with money are not in the right, their power through money must be removed, either by legislation creating moderation, or the removal of money and current status of presumed ownership.

It is an equation that is not that complicated.



Here is the funny part, there are people that have said if you don't like it leave it. Some people have even fallen into despair and left the worst of ways. I don't think of it that way. This is how I think on it, I don't accept the lack of justice, and it will change, and I would be willing to have all existence around me, but not me, end before accepting such a lack of justice or two tiered system. And those that think it is a game or they have the right to control, guess what they would rather see everything end then give up their control. Hence the conflict, with comfort in sameness.

But the point is as far as I am concerned it will change or things that will not change should cease to exist. Why, because if it is wrong, then you can not accept its existence if it refuses to change after being shown that it is wrong. While the other point of view says if it was wrong it would not exist in that fashion now, but that would mean that all things should be the way they are, and that says nothing that ever changed should have changed, and that argument is broken on many points.

But I understand their argument, they say they have something therefore they must be correct. I say what they have means nothing, and why it has to be proved they have nothing, by making what they do have, worth nothing, hence why it has to all fall down if it is not made better by things like legislation and enforcement.

My point is what money you have, especially considering the ways people can make money, means very little, and may need to mean nothing. They might say, ideas or thoughts mean nothing, and only their claim of ownership means something. Hence the battle lines and the conflict.


Edit: Seeing a Bush try and set social policy brings back that old conflict, money by any means, or what you think is best for the most people. Hence repeating that old thought from so many years ago. Note that it is a philosophical thought on direction. At some point there is a feeling that some just wont get it, although it is unfair for me to judge Bush, the actions as reported of those years showed a lack of caring for many people. This thought is the only way I can rationalize what then becomes a two tiered system of heaven and hell and find much duality in that, since to stop a two tier system without any moral base to it, a two tier system is created, hence the comment on sameness, and why I find the thought so interesting. Note it is only a thought and not a claim to be able to judge, but I always found it an interesting thought.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:01 AM
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8. Jeb Bush is as big a criminal as brother George.
What a family of mobsters the Bush family is.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 09:15 AM
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9. I hate the fucking Bush clan -- I despise Jeb almost as much as I despise Dubya!
You can bet that anything this family puts their hands on will soon turn to shit.
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