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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 12:45 AM
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Norfolk Without the Navy
It's hard to imagine a desirable and sustainable world with the world's largest naval base still in it, but it's hard for a lot of people in Norfolk, Virginia, to imagine it gone. The military is not just the force of good that selflessly patrols the world, slaughtering evildoers for the betterment of humanity, but it's also the primary source of jobs.

On Wednesday I visited a new coffee house in Norfolk called OffBase. The motto over its door is "Knowing Is Half the Battle." This is one of a new, or resurrected, breed of G.I. coffee houses springing up around the country near military bases and offering information and guidance to members of the military who might be inclined to fulfill their duty to refuse illegal orders. Tom Palumbo, the director of OffBase, gave me a useful new guide book produced by the Civilian Soldier Alliance, whose motto is "Supporting Resistance Within the Ranks".

When I spoke that evening around the corner at the Naro Cinema I said that the entire appearance of Norfolk is an illusion, because the military does not create jobs. Of course, there are military jobs. But they are always at the expense of more jobs. A University of Massachusetts - Amherst study found that investing public money in various other industries, like education or infrastructure or energy, or even cutting taxes, produces more jobs than the military. The choice is military or jobs. We can't have both.

These topics and a wide range of others are discussed and pursued by various organizations that use the space at OffBase to meet. Across the street is a community garden. In the same old warehouse building are art studios and larger event areas. And next door is an indoor organic local farmers market called the Five Points Farm Market. You want to produce good jobs in Norfolk, or in your town, or in Afghanistan for that matter? Watch this video about Five Points and learn how.

Who knew that Norfolk had such a community of activist initiatives? We don't have an indoor market like Five Points in Charlottesville. We don't have a movie theater that works with activist groups. Finding these things in Norfolk would be like discovering that the small rural Virginia town of Halifax had tried to prevent uranium mining by banning corporate chemical and radiation trespass, stripping corporations of constitutional protections, and joining Ecuador in granting legal rights to the environment itself. Oh wait, that happened. Sometimes resistance to the dominant destructive trends of our society can show up where it's most needed.

I was speaking in Norfolk following a screening of a movie about Daniel Ellsberg's leaking of the Pentagon Papers. In that movie we see how dedicated civil resisters who were protesting the Vietnam War and going to prison moved Ellsberg to tears and converted him from a war participant to a war resister. In reflecting on the prospects for whistleblowing today it becomes clear that something with at least as much potential to help us as whistleblowing is nonviolently resisting.

Steve Baggarly was at the film screening, where he read aloud a statement from Ellsberg about the late Tony Russo, a former Norfolk resident and a former colleague of Ellsberg's at the RAND Corporation who urged him to make the Pentagon Papers public. Baggarly announced his own upcoming court date this Tuesday. He, like Ellsberg and Russo before him, is facing prison for resisting illegal war.

In September 2008, Baggarly and three others, Susan Crane, Kristin Sadler, and Beth Brockman, went to the Oceana Air Show, where little children were being shown how to use automatic weapons, or at least play with them like toys. The four protesters climbed atop a B-52 and unfurled two banners. One read "We Shalt Not Kill," and the other "Weapons of Mass Destruction Are Nothing to Celebrate." They and eight observers were banned from all naval installations from Virginia to Maine. Baggarly was charged with trespassing, because he had already been banned.



Baggarly was tried on November 3, 2008, at the US District Court in Norfolk, Va. Two dozen supporters held a vigil and attended. Baggarly pled not guilty, took the stand and began to relate the story of an Afghan village bombed by B-52s, but the judge forbade such testimony and found Baggarly guilty, sentencing him to one day in jail and two years on probation, granting him however five minutes to make a statement. Here's what he said:

"Muna is from Kut, a village southeast of Baghdad, that was struck by a US missile in early April of 2003, during the US invasion. The explosion killed Muna's parents, as well as her four brothers. It also killed her infant daughter, whose name was 'Iraq'. Muna was the only survivor. She had 10 pieces of shrapnel in her body, from her big toe to her chest. Three pieces of metal were lodged in her head; the largest was five centimeters long. After three months of operations, treatment, and physical therapy, Muna regained the ability to sit up and to move around. She still had problems with dizziness, and used a wheelchair most of the time. The doctors said that her case was the most tenuous case in the hospital.

"Muna now has only partial hearing in her right ear, and suffers from chronic infections. She lost the use of her dominant hand after the explosion. Her left leg is mostly useless. And the surgery they performed to remove the shrapnel in her head could only remove the two smaller pieces. One piece (the largest) remains deeply lodged in her brain, because removing it would likely kill her. Because of her brain injuries, she suffers from intense seizures when not medicated, often resulting in harm to herself or others. She dreads being alone, in case a seizure comes and there is no one there to help.

"Afghan New Yorker Masuda Sultan lost nineteen members of her family while they were taking refuge in a farmhouse outside of Kandahar, Afghanistan, trying to escape the US bombs that began falling in October, 2001. This is her telling her family’s story:

"'One evening at about midnight, while they were sleeping, they heard some loud noises outside and realized that their area was being bombed. Some rockets hit nearby, and they decided they had to leave their rooms. As they were running outside of their rooms, some of them were wounded by rockets, some of them were being shot at. They described the scene where they were running with their kids in their arms, dodging bullets left and right, while they had -- while they saw balls of fire falling down to the earth. They had no idea what was going on, and they were just running in any which direction for their lives. Some of them hid under and area that was covered, and some of them heard word of their loved ones falling to the ground.

"'They were just women and children running for their lives, being shot at by a helicopter hovering over their home. And these people were not Taliban supporters. They weren’t al-Qaeda fighters. They were simple Afghans, trying to stay safe in their own country. Nineteen members of that extended family were killed. There were many women and children in that nineteen. We met the children that became orphans or that lost their mothers. One of them was a little girl that was a year and a half old, and she had been drinking breast milk, and they were having trouble with her getting used to the powdered milk. But when you see the faces of those little children and they tell you the story of how their mother died on their lap with the blood flowing out of their head and they ran and they ran for their lives, it just breaks your heart. It breaks your heart to know that this is the collateral damage of war.

"'The events of September 11th really made me angry, but seeing these people and what they went through makes me angry, as well. You know, they say that in war you have to break a couple of eggs in order to make an omelet. But when those eggs are your family, what can you do?'

"Not only can the B-52, like the one we were atop at the air show, drop 1,000 lb. bombs as described in the story I told earlier of the bombing of the Afghan village, but it can also drop cluster bombs. A June 2005 internal memorandum from the U.S. Army's 42d Infantry Division which describes how a 15-year old Iraqi boy, working as a shepherd, 'was leading the sheep through north Tikrit, near an ammo storage site, when he picked up an unexploded cluster bomblet. It detonated and he was killed.' Asked to pay $3,000 in compensation for the boy's life, the Army granted that his death was 'a horrible loss for the claimant,' his mother, but concluded that there was 'insufficient evidence to indicate that US. Forces caused the death.'

"According to a member of the Federation of American Scientists, 'Cluster bombs are 1,000 pound deadly munitions that break into 202 bomblets, each of which fractures into 300 fragments of steel. The blast from a single bomblet covers a football field; it can make an apple orchard into applesauce, or people into hamburger...Unexploded munitions are also a concern, the bomblets are yellow with a little white umbrella, and they’re very attractive to children.' Some 15% of cluster bomblets fail to explode and become de facto land mines. Like Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia before them, Iraq and Afghanistan are littered with unexploded bomblets that will continue to kill and maim people there for decades to come, especially children.

"A single B-52 can also carry 20 nuclear armed cruise missiles with the capability of 320 Hiroshima bombs. That one plane can pack more explosive power than has been used in the history of the world. The Air Force has 66 of these bombers. So it is appropriate that our time on the B-52 led to this courtroom. It is precisely US law and the courts which ignores the desires of most of humanity by protecting such omnicidal weapons and the indiscriminate killing they engage in around the globe. In the end, US courts trample God’s law of love for all people, by rubber-stamping every war, every new weapons system, and every military intervention, invasion, incursion, occupation, police action, and special forces operation coming out of the Pentagon—and they are many and constant. The courts protect our world’s largest stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction despite international treaties and laws the US is a party to that declare them illegal and require their disarmament. US courts ensure that if our weapons of mass destruction are one day used to destroy the planet and all life on it, it will be perfectly legal.

"Lastly, blood is on all of our hands. Every US citizen is enmeshed in the structures of empire and militarism. Our troops are put in atrocity producing situations, and we are all responsible through our payment of taxes, our consumption of oil, our votes, and our silence. The gospel call is to turn from indiscriminate killing to indiscriminate love, even for the enemy. We must repent and embrace the way of nonviolence, the way of Jesus, Gandhi, King and Dorothy Day. Our hope is to disarm and redistribute the planet’s wealth. We must stop heaping corpses upon the altar of national security and instead follow God who resides in its victims."


In December 2009, Baggarly joined others in passing out leaflets about our wars at the Pentagon. A trial in March found six people guilty. Apparently the Pentagon feels threatened by leaflets. On Tuesday, Baggarly goes to court to face the charge of having violated his probation. If he's asked what he is doing there, I imagine that -- like Thoreau -- he will respond by asking what the rest of us are doing not there.

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 12:54 AM
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1. Wow! Amazing photo
I grew up in Hampton Roads. The economy has always been low paying jobs. You get kids from Oklahoma who join the Navy and then when they get out they stick around because they don't want to go back to Oklahoma. There is such a ready pool of semi-skilled labor that it keeps wages down across the board. Grew up on the flight path to Oceana too, you would not believe the amount jet fuel wasted by those pilots, just flying around in circles for days.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:02 AM
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3. yeah
i believe it
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 07:42 AM
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8. I grew up as an "Army brat"
I remember (after Vietnam) when they "pulled" the 101st out of Ft. Campbell, Ky. Clarksville, Tn., is adjacent to the Base and is currently the 9th largest city in Tn. Well, Clarksvile became a "ghost town" and the local economy went broke. I am all for cutting our disgusting "Defense Budget", (actually Offense Budget) but I guess I am a "socialist" because I believe that OUR government should help US (the other 95%) create and sustain jobs. Killing is not a job, but the local economies are often completely dependent on these military bases. I realize that FDR made some horrendous decisions but I believe his "New Deal" and his proposed "2nd Bill of Rights" were (are) excellent policies. I do not believe in making farmers wealthy by not planting. Maybe a "means test" (like the other WELFARE programs, the ones that keep people poor) might be imposed. I don't know all of the answers, but I do know that killing and "unfettered capitalism" are about the same. I do not understand how anyone can deny that America Must redistribute the wealth. We are the most unjust country in the world in wealth distribution and anyone who believes we have a "classless society" is insane. Yes, stop the killing but help the people with good paying (Union would be best) jobs. Maybe this is random..
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:07 PM
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18. small world
I'm from Portsmouth :)

:hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:01 AM
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2. That is a Hell of a post, Sir.
One of the best things I've read here in many a moon. Thank you very, very much for posting this.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:02 AM
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4. Our military is killing the world
Killing people. Killing our economy. Killing ancient cultures. Killing women and children and killing our very souls.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:00 AM
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6. killing is their business. business is good.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 09:44 PM
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21. I'm a Vietnam Vet
and killing was my business and business was good. Sorry but I have little sympathy for people who think that protesting the war is brave, try sitting in a foxhole with arty screaming overhead and not shitting your pants, or fighting the enemy at night or watching you buddies die, I have nothing but contempt for those that fled to Canada so they wouldn't be put in harms way, to me,they are nothing but cowards.
Just my honest opinion and nothing more. If you don't like it, tough s**t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:03 PM
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22. I have come to realize that courage
comes from/is exhibited by someone who has a choice and choses to do the hard/dangerous thing. A woman who lives with abuse and is held at gunpoint isn't necessary brave, she doesn't have a choice. A woman who goes into the abused woman's home as she is being held at gunpoint for the purpose to save the woman's life is brave, she had the choice to avoid the entire matter.

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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:14 PM
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23. I agree
Those that choose the easy way out, to me , are cowards. I didn't want to go to Vietnam but when I enlisted I knew thats what was going to happen, I didn't desert or try to get out of it, I served and served with pride. When I got back my own younger brother asked me how it felt to murder women and children, we didn't talk again for 30 years. He finally came to me and apologized and said that it took real courage to go even if I didn't agree with the war.
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southshore Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:53 PM
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24. Been there, done that...
And if you have too, and you are not disgusted by the idea of war, then there is someting seriously wrong with you.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:45 AM
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14. Wrong
The killing is ordered by the President of the United States and funded by the Congress of the United States.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:35 PM
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19. Bit over the top there and besides if ya wanna blame someone blame the politicans, their the ones
that in the end set our foreign policy and other things, the military answers to them not the other way around.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 03:50 AM
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5. kicking for real heroes!
Rec
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:15 AM
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7. Grew up on the Peninsula (York Co.)-Tidewater exists off the government teat
great post!

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 07:53 AM
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10. When a base, like Norfolk and others, shuts down...
there are usually thousands of civilian jobs and civilian supply firms affected. Norton AFB in San Bernardino, CA reflected that fact when it was shut down.

This is a typical David Swanson 'hit' piece giving one paragraph to the shutting of Norfolk and the rest to attacks on our military.

When large bases close, nearby civilian cities and towns take a tremendous hit.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:22 AM
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11. and when we end wars hell breaks loose
but these facts are only true if we choose to imagine our only tool is the military

if we fund green energy jobs, if northrop grumman starts building light rail, if we invest in Afghan farms, then this all becomes a Big Lie
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:32 AM
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13. Just put him on ignore. You'll never be offended again.
At least not until you read some of my posts. Industries die all over the place, all of the time. Look at Detroit, that actually made something useful. Or the steel industry in Cleveland or Pittsburgh.

Screw the military, and it's sacred cow status.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:02 PM
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16. Most of our bases/posts are in the south-it is a sizeable chunk of the economy in the southernstates
but they hate the gubment :eyes:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 07:51 AM
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9. thanks for this...
i'll have to check out that coffee house....
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:27 AM
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12. I spent two years there, '69-71.
NAS Norva, and across the bay, on the USS Enterprise in Newport News.

If it weren't for the military, the place would be a ghost town. And it should be. When I first got there, I was a enthusiastic 17 year-old kid. Supported the war in Vietnam. I had just qualified for SEAL School. But I couldn't go until I had my 18th birthday. So, I was working as a courier in the OOD's office at NAS until then.

We had some Chief Petty Officers there who were assigned to work as JOOD's on temporary assignment from Portsmouth Naval Hospital. I worked for them. We had one, who had just returned from Vietnam, serving as the Commander on a riverboat. He was recovering from a lot of shrapnel in his body. He was the nicest, friendliest, most easy-going guy you could ever meet. He was from Tennessee, and he changed my way of thinking forever.

One day,I was picking up a batch of classified messages for distribution. One of them was the citation for the Silver Star that Chief Clark had just been awarded, and was going to be presented with in a ceremony in a few weeks. It described his bravery, and had a vivid description of the events of that battle, and his actions. I went over to his office to share the good news, and be the first to congratulate him. What came next, shocked the shit out of me.

When I told him he was getting the award, he said, "I'm going to refuse it". I said, WTF? You're being awarded the second highest medal in the military, and you don't want it? I had read the account of the battle, and he said, "I had to kill 27 people that night. I don't think that's something I should be honored for". We had many more conversations about his experiences after that, and I found a new respect for anti-war protesters.

Needless to say, I told them to stick SEAL School up their ass. And I gave the Navy such a hard time for the next year and a half, they asked me to leave. With honor of course. It was mutually agreeable.
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It seems that since a "Democrat" occupies the White House now, DU is full of apologists, supporting the war. They say "Obama said he would concentrate on Afghanistan during the campaign." Or, "The Taliban will kill them if we leave". I say bullshit. Nobody can kill them as efficiently as we can, and do. I don't give a flying fuck what he said during the campaign. What's wrong is wrong.

Jesus Christ, we're even funding the opposition, to keep it going. Here's an article from The Nation, in November.

http://content.ebscohost.com/pdf23_24/pdf/2009/NAT/30Nov09/45108469.pdf?T=P&P=AN&K=45108469&S=R&D=nih&EbscoContent=dGJyMMTo50Sep7Q4v%2BbwOLCmr0ieprdSsKu4SLKWxWXS&ContentCustomer=dGJyMPLe44bf6ueH7LHreefkuX3n6vWL
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:51 PM
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15. I should also mention
My elementary school was also on the flight path for NAS Oceana as is almost everything in Va Beach. A-6 Intruders flying about a hundred feet over the school. Yeah somebody wised up around 10 years ago and decided that wasn't a very good idea so they shut down the school and built another one. They did this with several other schools. I guess the image of hundreds of school children running out of a burning school building having been burned by jet fuel was an image that could be potentially damaging to Navy PR.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:05 PM
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17. Norfolk and Navy go hand and hand.
Always has, always will.

The Hampton Roads area in general is heavily subsidized by military/govt funds. In fact the only reason we have the infrastructure in place there is because of that.

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:13 PM
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20. The voices we will never hear and the images we will never see on our corrupt, corporate media.
Thank you for reminding us of the horrors we inflict on others in the name of "democracy" and "peace". These protesters are heroic people.

Rec.
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