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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:19 AM
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Chinese fur farms skinning dogs, cats, raccoons, and other animals alive.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 03:23 AM by Quantess
For their fur. The rationale is that the fur comes off easier and in one piece when the animal is still alive or at least warm. China.

http://animalsaviors.org/furfarm.html

What do you think?

The USA is licking China's boots right now, thanks to all the debt GW Bush got us into. The USA does not stand a moral highground anyway, ever since Guantanamo Bay, but at least we claim to love our pets.

Is there anything we can do to make a difference, regarding the torture of animals in China?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:30 AM
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1. Big difference between 'alive' and 'still warm'.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:33 AM
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2. Watch the video.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 03:37 AM by Quantess
Edit to add that the animals are still alive and writhing in the video.

"still warm" and dead, I have no problem with.
But, these animals are being skinned alive.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:35 AM
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3. No thanks.
If something is dead and still warm it is easier to skin (that is true). If it is alive while you skin it, then that is torture imo.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:39 AM
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4. You don't want to know what I think.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:07 AM
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5. Of course I do!
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 04:11 AM by Quantess
I have an idea of what you might say, but you are often surprising, so nobody knows for sure what you will say.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:18 AM
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6. Its China, there is nothing you can do
The entire country is a giant Love Canal chemical spill. There are no pollution controls, and the winds blow her poisonous air world wide.

If China will not protect themselves from industrial poisons...why would they care about animals?

Pick your battles. This is not one you can win.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:32 AM
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7. It doesn't help that China owns us.
China owns our asses, and so how can we complain?

Thanks to George W. Bush, we are heavily indebted to China.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:34 AM
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8. I for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords. nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:26 PM
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17. China owns less than a trillion dollars of our debt
They don't "own" us by any means.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:26 PM
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18. Well, that's not entirely true
Chimpy would have never pulled it off without 30 years of treasonous help from his daddy and uncle Prescott Jr.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:30 PM
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20. The Japanese and even the British own more.
I really wish people would quit repeating the bullshit that China "owns" us.

We borrowed money from them at fucking 400 basis points. Shit, I'D borrow from China at 4%.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:40 AM
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9. I'm going to join flvegan in keeping my mouth shut. nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:23 PM
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10. Sign the petition to put an end to this cruelty:
http://animalsaviors.org/petition.html
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:07 PM
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11. Please make this petition a new thread.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 03:08 PM by MoonRiver
It will get more attention that way.
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DrCory Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:45 PM
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12. F*****G Ghastly
I witnessed some horrific treatment of animals over there. What I found deeply disturbing is that many Chinese seem not to be bothered by this.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:49 PM
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14. When we were over there we heard about a favorite sport of the Chinese
visiting zoos. They like to put red hot chili into chicken carcasses and throw the carcasses into tiger pens then laugh with glee as the tigers writhe in pain. BARBARIANS!
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DrCory Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:36 PM
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21. I've Heard That As Well.
On the route I walked to the Carrafour market, there was a small "colony" of stray dogs living in some bushes surrounding a tree. Pathetic, ragged little creatures, they would bare teeth and growl if I came too close. Occasionally I left food. One day, I noticed they were gone. The owner of the shop nearby noticed I was looking for them. He made a motion with his arms like swinging a pole down wards and said "Jingcha" meaning police. I took this to mean they were killed by the local police which I later learned was a common practice. Apparently, the police often just beat stray dogs to death on the sidewalk.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:47 PM
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13. Animal abuse, slave labor, mass executions, protesters machine-gunned....
At our house, if it says "Made in China" on it, it does not get purchased.
No exceptions.

Not one penny goes for goods manufactured in China.

Vote with your wallet!
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:27 PM
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19. Same here.
We read the label of every thing we buy. Every damn thing -- food, toilet paper, clothes, everything. Made in China = don't need it, which very rare exceptions, such as this shitty computer I'm typing on.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:54 PM
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15. For one thing, people could stop buying fur items.
Which would include not just the obvious fur coats and such, but also fur-trimmed things, and many makeup and art brushes (which have synthetic alternatives that work beautifully, FYI.)

Chinese (and American, they're really no better) fur farms aren't going to quit abusing animals as long as it's profitable.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:22 PM
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16. Absolutely. This wouldn't be happening if there wasn't a market for fur accessories.
I read somewhere that fur trimmed items have mostly dog and cat fur, especially if the item is made in China. Fur coats are more likely to be other animals, but dog and cat fur is extremely common for fur detailing, where people are less likely to scrutinize what kind of animal it was.

Last night in between sleep, I thought about the fur-trimmed vest and jacket I recently bought second hand. I got up in the middle of the night to check, and was relieved that it's fake fur trim.
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