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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:38 PM
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You Want Conspiracy ??? - Driven to Destruction – The Streetcar Conspiracy - FDL
For those unaware of this history:

Driven to Destruction – The Streetcar Conspiracy
By: Jim Moss Friday April 16, 2010 1:00 pm

<snip>

The second installment of Driven to Destruction outlined how advertising trends have created a mystique-based car culture that is very difficult to transform. For 100 years, commercials from auto and oil companies have helped create a national ethos in which the automobile is king. But clever advertising is far from being the only culprit. Our love affair with our cars has also been fueled by the devious actions of a few major corporations – most notably General Motors.

The PBS documentary “Taken For a Ride” describes how the once ubiquitous electric streetcar was driven into the ground by the automobile. It wasn’t a fair fight:

When you’re talking about public transportation in America, for the first part of this century, you’re talking about streetcars. Trolleys ran on most major avenues every few minutes.

In 1922, only one American in ten owned an automobile. Everyone else used rail. At that time Alfred P. Sloan (President, General Motors) said, ‘Wait a minute, this is a great opportunity. We’ve got 90 percent of the market out there that we can somehow turn into automobile users. If we can eliminate the rail alternatives, we will create a new market for our cars. And if we don’t, then General Motors’ sales are just going to remain level.’

Sloan had the idea that he wanted to somehow motorize all the major cities in the country. (GM bought) the largest bus-operating company in the country and the largest bus-production company. And using that as a foothold, GM moved into Manhattan. They acquired interests in the New York railways and between 1926 and ‘36 they methodically destroyed the rails.

When they finally motorized New York, GM worked hard to create the impression of a nationwide trend away from rail. But there was no trend. Buses were a tough sell. They jolted. They smelled. They inched through traffic. City by city, it took the hidden hand of General Motors to replace streetcars with Yellow Coach buses.


The piece-by-piece destruction of the streetcar industry didn’t stop with General Motors. A number of corporations in the auto and oil industries realized that it was in their best interests to work together:

In 1936, a company was founded that would grow to dominate American city transportation. National City Lines had no visible connection to General Motors. In fact, the director of operations came from a GM subsidiary, Yellow Coach, and members of the Board of Directors came from Greyhound, which was founded and controlled by General Motors.

The money to start this new company also came from Greyhound and Yellow Coach. Over the next few years, Standard Oil of California, Mack Truck, Phillips Petroleum and Firestone Tire would join GM in backing this venture. National City Lines grew quickly. By 1946 it controlled public-transit systems in over 83 cities. From Baltimore to St. Louis, Salt Lake City to L.A., the company had grown into an empire.


And this empire was created for one reason – to absorb as much of the streetcar industry as possible, and then to shut it down. Since this conspiracy of corporations was methodically destroying a very efficient and beneficial industry, there was antitrust action taken – but all that came of the proceedings were fines of $5000 for each company involved and $1 for the treasurer of GM who oversaw much of National City Lines’ operations.

The opening words of “Taken For a Ride” tell us why this tragic bit of history is so important for us today:

This is a story about how things got the way they are. Why sitting in traffic seems natural. Why our public transportation is the worst in the industrialized world. And why superhighways cut right through the hearts of our cities.


We might add, “And why when gas hits $4 a gallon, politicians on both sides of the aisle start chanting ‘drill, baby, drill".” We are addicted to oil because we are addicted to driving. And we are addicted to driving in large part because of the profit lust of a handful of men who ran a handful of corporations back in the 1930’s and 40’s.

This profit lust still exists today. The historical parallels are eerie. When the streetcars were shut down and GM conspired its way to soaring sales, many people who could not afford cars were left with few transportation options. Meanwhile, the government could do no better than laughably small fines.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Big Oil And Big Auto continue to rule the American transportation scene. These days, Standard Oil (ExxonMobil) is raking in record profits and GM is receiving huge government bailouts because it is now "too big to fail."

Looking back at the lessons of the streetcar’s demise, it is clear that breaking our dependency on the automobile will not be easy. There are many powerful forces working dilligently to maintain the status quo. How can we keep corporate interests from dominating the energy policy of the 21st century?

In the next installment of Driven to Destruction, we will look at how the development of the Interstate highway system deepened the impact of the car culture, and how its story can give us clues as to how to develop new attitudes about transportation in the future.

<snip>

Link: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/41383

Link to the PBS documentary “Taken For a Ride”: http://www.culturechange.org/issue10/taken-for-a-ride.htm

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:51 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this, it was extremely interesting. I also passed
the articles along.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:03 PM
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2. You Are Quite Welcome !!!
Most people don't realize that 'Roger Rabbit' is actually a documentary, LOL!

:evilgrin:

:hi:

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:08 PM
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3. Stella!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:12 PM
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4. Yes, Honey ???


:evilgrin:

:hi:
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:14 PM
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5. ding ding ding
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:17 PM
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6. Bravo !!!
:applause:

:hi:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:23 PM
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7. What? Obama's against streetcars now?
Sheesh...it's getting bad...
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:27 PM
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8. this left out Elizabeth Dole's privatizing
the freight lines in the 80's. Sort of the death knell for the railroads.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:29 PM
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9. I think it's oversimplifying to view the streetcars as "a very efficient and beneficial industry"
The streetcar companies were rife with corruption, and that was often a sore spot with the public. Nor was the operation of streetcars in major cities always efficient or safe. There's no doubt that GM and their allies in related industries sought to purchase and dismantle streetcar companies, but streetcar companies played a role in their own destruction, and public preference for individual mobility did as well.

Still, an interesting article, as were the earlier installments that it linked to.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:33 PM
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10. I'm fortunate to still be able to ride them..
we've still got 'em in Toronto



Sid
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:36 PM
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12. San Francisco Still Has Many... Plus The Cable Cars


:hi:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:03 PM
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14. San Francisco had the good sense to start a municipally owned rail early
Right after the earthquake, iirc. Not all cities were as wise, unfortunately.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:34 PM
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11. We talked about that in my Urban Planning class back in the early 80's.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:43 PM
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13. I Learned About It It The 80's Too... The Class Was Called, 'The Economics Of Racism'...
and the professor's name was... John Henry.

I shit you not, LOL!

One great class that I'll never forget.

:hi:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:26 PM
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15. It was a hard class for me since it was one of the classes that would
fullfill a diversity credit.

A lot of people who just didn't want to be there. I took it because it sounded interesting. I loved it, a mess of white suburban kids learning about how cities were structured and how race played a big part of that outcome.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:40 PM
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16. As a kid in Long Beach, I remember the ubiquitous "PE" cars.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 02:42 PM by Ernesto
The tracks & cars seemed to be everywhere. It was general knowledge that GM put the hit on them....
"The assistant U.S. attorney general knew. The "result" of GM's plans, he declared, "has been the elimination of electrically propelled vehicles and the substitution of motor buses in a number of cities."

http://www.lovearth.net/gmdeliberatelydestroyed.htm
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:12 PM
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17. Great Info... Thanks !!!
:kick:

:hi:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:33 PM
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18. Toronto never completely got rid of their streetcars
I grew up in a neighborhood where streetcars were the fastest way to get downtown or to other parts of the city.

I probably rode this one when I was a kid.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:37 PM
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19. My Great-grandparents moved from Boston to Ohio on the streetcar.
In the 30s, I believe. I think it was temporary work, one or two years, but they actually got on the streetcar in Watertown, MA, rode west until they got to the next streetcar system, and so on until they reached Ohio. I don't really have much more detail than that, unfortunately, but I'm still trying to find out. It shows how extensive the streetcar systems were.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:49 PM
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20. K&R For those of us who can't drive mass transit is a human rights issue.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 03:50 PM by Odin2005
Those of use who are unable to drive are effectively 2nd class citizens.
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