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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:30 AM
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Who distrusts government more, Democrats or Republicans?
The answer might just surprise you, according to a Pew poll overall Democrats are more distrusting of government than are Republicans.

Doesn't that make Democrats the *real* conservatives?

http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1698

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:37 AM
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1. Republicans distrust govt for what it can do FOR people.
Democrats distrust govt for what it can do TO people.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:42 AM
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2. It all depends on who is being done to, or for, for that matter..
Republicans want government to do for the wealthy and powerful and to the poor and powerless.

Democrats want government to do for the poor and powerless and to the wealthy and powerful.

Speaking here of the rank and file, the elite of both parties basically want to act more like the Republicans.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:45 AM
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3. Republicans have a natural tendency toward obeying a powerful authority-figure.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 09:48 AM by Ian David
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:55 AM
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4. Look at the numbers..
Only when it's *their* powerful authority figure..
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:19 AM
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5. *We* don't elect powerful authority figures. THEY do. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:21 AM
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6. Ian David, you are so correct.
disgusting authoritative figures, with hubris as middle name always. :puke:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:24 AM
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7. There's more than a few of "us" who want a powerful authority figure..
More than I would have thought two or three years ago, but then every time I get blindsided it's from being insufficiently cynical.

I think you're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise.



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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:28 AM
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8. Well, if you want to live in a military dictatorship, you have more than enough choices.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 10:29 AM by Ian David
* Burma (Myanmar) - since the 1962 Burmese coup d'état resulted in Ne Win seizing power; currently the Tatmadaw (armed forces) still lead under the auspices of the State Peace and Development Council; the country was also briefly led by the military from 1958 to 1960.
* Fiji - since the 2006 Fijian coup d'état; see also 1987 Fijian coups d'état and 2000 Fijian coup d'état.
* Guinea - since the 2008 Guinean coup d'état resulting in Moussa Dadis Camara seizing power.
* Libya - since the 1969 Libyan coup d'état resulting in Muammar al-Gaddafi seizing power.
* Niger - since the 2010 Nigerien coup d'état.
* North Korea - Defacto 1948, National Defence Commission of North Korea (proclaimed highest authority in 1998)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#Current_cases

Let me know how that works out for you.

If they still let you access DU from there.



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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:34 AM
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10. WTF are you talking about?
I'm personally one of the most distrustful of government types you're likely to run across.

But keep in mind that 26% of Dems trusted GW Bush, I was not one of them.

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:48 AM
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13. FDR and Johnson? Not exactly weak sisters.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:54 AM
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14. Kennedy was a PT boat captain in WWII..
Not exactly a "weak sister" either, nor was Truman for that matter.

And even Jimmy Carter was a submarine XO and qualified to be a captain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Torpedo_Boat_PT-109
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 03:48 PM
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19. true dat
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:31 AM
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9. Interesting to see how those numbers change over the years
Democrats have been pretty consistent in not trusting the government since Nixon, regardless of who is in charge -- a little bit more during democratic administrations, a little bit less during republican administrations, but always between 26 and 34 percent. But Republicans swing wildly back and forth depending on who is in the white house.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:36 AM
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11. Yep, Nixon really blew it, didn't he?
More Republicans trusted Kennedy/Johnson than have ever trusted any Republican president since..

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:39 AM
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12. it appears that democrats are troubled by the systemic problems exposed in watergate, whereas
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 10:40 AM by fishwax
republicans are only troubled by those systemic problems when someone they don't trust is in power. When you can use the government to oppress your enemies it's okay, but when your enemy can use the government to oppress you, that's a problem. I guess it's not surprising that republicans would see it that way.




"More Republicans trusted Kennedy/Johnson than have ever trusted any Republican president since.."

I know! That number was a bit mind-blowing :wow:
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:56 AM
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15. that 50 to 12 percent drop in republican trust for government after obama's election is disturbing
it shows a deeply crazy manichean view of the world among that hard core segment of the population who continue to identify as republicans. compare it to the drop in dem trust when bush was elected.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:01 AM
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17. I used to post on Salon's Table Talk quite a few years ago..
There was a thread there that ran for at least a year talking about how conservatism = mental illness, I took it as a joke at the time but I'm now starting to seriously consider the possibility.



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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:57 AM
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16. People who USED to be Democrats until Pelosi and Reid and
NAFTA and shit-like-that drove us right the fuck OUT of the party?

Hmmm?

:freak:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:03 AM
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18. Sigh..
I know what you mean, there doesn't seem to be anywhere for a lot of us to go politically.
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