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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:29 AM Original message |
Elderly partners forced apart - MARRIAGE EQUALITY NOW! |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is such an incredibly sad story |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But required by Federal Law |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Only because the law treats gay couples as unequal |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The couple could have avoided this by making sure all property was jointly owned. |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. If they had been Hetrosexual they would have been married |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. But if they had been heterosexual and NOT married, the survivor would be in the same situation |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. The point is that they are legally prohibited from being married |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. My comments was directed more at Public Welfare then anything else |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. The OP was about what happened to this couple |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Thank you. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. It is my understanding that they had the house in both |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. My Scanning of the complaint, was BOTH were in some sort of care at the same time |
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Ratty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. It IS a "gay thing" |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. +1000 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is what those who oppose equality wish to see happen. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. This is a Welfare problem NOT a marriage equity issue, |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Actually- self -delete |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. You are full of shit. First of all, you do not have to be on |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Medicaid is WELFARE |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Okay, so the creditors took everything |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I scanned the complaint |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. You are seriously naive enough to believe that |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I did NOT say that, all I pointed out the bigger push was welfare law |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. I have read the story last week |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. You missed my point, the issue is who to pay for the Nursing home care |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. "God is in the mix!" n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. It's theft. I've never thought of it in this way before. nt |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. Read the official legal documents. You'll end up in tears. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That is just the Complaint, |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Again, you are full of shit. Medicaid law as it relates to |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Do you realize that happyslug is a practicing attorney who actually |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That doesn't excuse what he is doing |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I am NOT blaming the Victim, I am explaining the law |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. How do you make sure artwork and jewelry is in both names? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. If the house is in both names, the presumes everything is in both names |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I have been dealing in Welfare law for almost 20 years |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Please make your point without the personal attacks. |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. The person you choose to scold is not the one blaming the victims or insisting it's not a gay thing |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You've accused someone of doing that, but made no reply to him when he responded. |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Because after a bit of back and forth he was mired in a view I find disgusting |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. I'm sorry, mother. I'll go to my room now |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
45. They were required by federal law to physically and emotionally abuse these men? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. But the thrust is that way, and such property loss is easier to prove. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Oh wow. |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. our generation's civil rights struggle... nt |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Increase right to Welfare? |
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greenbird (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I'm not familiar with CA law, but |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Same in Pa, but the limit is $250 in total assets |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Being prevented from the bedside of your dying partner is NOT a welfare problem.n/t |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. This action is the taking of property NOT anyone greiving over his loss |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Are you serious? Maybe you need to reread the OP> |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The lawsuit clearly points out it is a property claim |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Oh, please. n/t |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. You Practice in Pa? What chance do you think this guy has? N/T |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
36. This story for those who tell us that our rights are a "pet issue" & "poutrage" |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. And evidently it's all our fault for not knowing the law. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. There are no words... |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
46. Horribly sad |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
57. This story makes me so sad. And it makes it even more clear that |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
60. Too Late for me to Rec so here's the kick |
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