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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:35 PM
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It's Liz Windsor's 84th birthday. Last Head of State to be a WWII vet and no one hated GWBush
more than Liz did. Hated Thatcher, too.

And loves MObama and the kids.



Cheers ol' girl!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:56 PM
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1. God Save the Queen! We mean it, man!
*waves tiny Union Jack*
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:00 PM
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2. Hey!
:hi: I know you!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:03 PM
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3. I loved the way she treated Michelle Obama
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:08 PM
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4. Me too. And inviting her back with the kids for the special tour. nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:00 PM
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5. I wonder if she will ever give the job to Charlie, or if she wants to die
in the throne...


mark
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:28 PM
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6. She wants to die on the throne
British monarchs have only abdicated in 'disgrace' (Edward VIII) or they have been forced out in a coup (and that hasn't happened since 1688). She is religious, and she regards her coronation oath as binding.

But she's 22 years older than Charles, and he's in good health; it's highly likely he'll outlive her, and get to reign himself for a bit (at least, start to; she's popular, and there won't be enough people wanting the end of the monarchy in Britain to make a change before she dies. But people don't care so much about him, and republicanism may start to grow once she's gone).
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:33 PM
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7. Didn't the late Queen Mum
live to 101? I agree Elizabeth will not abdicate and if she lives as long as her late mother Charles may have a very long wait, although he may also have inherited the longevity DNA.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:38 PM
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8. She did, but that would only make Charles about 79 if Liz II lived that long
and his father has already made it to 88 with very few health problems.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:44 PM
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13. She didn't quite make it to Rose Kennedy's 105. Drank gin every day. nt
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:21 PM
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14. The liquor finally did her in. :^D
From an actual conversation recorded by William Least Heat-Moon (in either Blue highways or River Horse, can't remember:

"The liquor finally killed him."

"How old was he?"

"Eighty-seven."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:36 PM
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15. When The Mum died, I called a friend of mine - British - who was a reporter/editor for the
Toronto Star for decades. I told "You've had some encounters with the Queen Mum, right?"
"Right-oh."
"I have a question, was it Gordon's or Beefeater?"
"It didn't matter so long as it was cold."
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:39 PM
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9. I always thought he seemed like a decent man - have no idea what sort of a king he would be,
if it really matters very much these days. Would be nice to see him get a shot though.

mark
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:40 PM
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11. If you call cheating ..decent..
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 04:42 PM by HipChick

he's never been in touch with the people.. generationally - people gravitate to the sons..
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:15 PM
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12. Yes, he does seem to be a decent sort. I know some embassy folks that worked
with him and he's very easy-going and wants none of that royal hulabaloo on a personal level.

When there were racial riots in the East End, Chuck was there the next day talking to the folks that lived there.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 11:07 PM
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16. the mum hated david and wallis. she considered themselves having
dodged a bullet when Edward was going to become king. When he abdicated her husband became king and he was almost pathologically shy and stuttered terribly. She blamed them for his death. It traumatized them and they will not abdicate because of this.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:16 AM
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17. My dad was born in 1911.
In his observation of world events, his theory was that David abdicated, and used Wallis as an excuse to quit, because he didn't want to go to war against his German cousins with the clouds of war gathering in 1936.

I believe David (Edward VIII) was asked why he spoke German and he replied, "Ist mein Mutterspracht". It's my mother tongue.

Besides, they changed their names from Hanover to Windsor, and Battenberg to Mountbatten.

That may be a reasonable theory.

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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:39 PM
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10. I can never forgive the way she treated Diana..especially in death...Charles will make a lousy king
He should be by-passed, go straight to Will..
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:32 AM
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18. A toast to the Queen! Happy birthday, Ma'am.
:toast:

Hekate

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