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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:05 PM
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Tea Partiers: See where they live...


The map above -- courtesy of the absolutely terrific "Patchwork Nation" project led by Dante Chinni -- gives us yet another piece of the still-incomplete picture of the Tea Party movement: where they live.

The answer? All over but, not surprisingly, the largest concentrations of people who identify themselves as member of the Tea Party are in typically Republican strongholds -- north Florida, central Texas as well as the northern portions of the Mountain West.

"The biggest number of these folks do tend to come from wealthier GOP areas, as some polls have shown," emailed Chinni. "What may be more interesting is there's not as much interest from the counties we call 'Evangelical Epicenters,' meaning less interest in places where the religious right dominates."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/republican-party/tea-parties-where-they-live.html?wprss=thefix
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:08 PM
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1. Proud to be from Massachusetts. Well, except for that douche Scott Brown. nt
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 03:09 PM by valerief
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:09 PM
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2. Hiding face with embarrassment.
It's scary in Colorado right now.
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blueredneck Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:13 PM
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3. This can't be accurate.
There are way more nut job tea partiers in OK than that. I have multiple people in a really small town on my face book that attend rallies.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:16 PM
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4. I think this indicates that, overall, their numbers are few.
In a distribution study, the larger the N (total number of subjects), the more reliable are any conclusions drawn.

That the distribution seems erratic indicates, I think, a very low N.

:patriot:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:40 PM
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11. The graphic seems to be calculating by county, which is also problematic
because the physical size of the county may be way out of proportion to the relative population. Large area rural counties will make a stronger visual statement than small urban counties.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:27 PM
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19. Excellent point. n/t
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:20 PM
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5. Compare to this map of the McCain electoral votes and it looks
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:24 PM
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6. Wow! Quite a few in New Mexico. Maybe someone should tell them NM gets back $2.03...
...in federal spending for every dollar paid in federal tax.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html

Maybe someone ought to tell them they're No. 1, getting back more than any other state...
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:34 AM
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23. That big chunk is right around rt.66 ! A sneaky speed trap in the 70s
I love NM, this sucks to see that big ol' chunk.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:30 AM
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28. Looks like the area around Catron County; nut-job central in NM...
and showing them scientifically researched statistics just makes you one of them pointy headed intellectuals that George Wallace, the modern founder of this strain of American politics , warned 'em about decades ago. Using facts and logic on these people is pointless. Our congressional delegation here, by the way, is 5 out of 5 Democrat,a Democratic Governor, and Dem majorities in the state house. And the only reason we don't still have a Democratic mayor in Albuquerque, by far the largest city here, is that two Democrats split the vote, and the republican slid in with just over 40 % of the vote, although we certainly do have our little tea party yahoos here too.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:29 PM
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7. See also
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:31 PM
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8. I'd like to make a love map.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:34 PM
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9. They have one...
Stand Strong Against Hate

Is there hate in your state? The green on the map represents Americans standing strong against hate. The red dots represent documented hate groups.

Click your state to learn more. Then add yourself to our map as a voice for tolerance.

More:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-involved/stand-strong-against-hate

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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:56 PM
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12. Thank you! I just added myself "standing strong against hate" in Durham NC!
I'm so thrilled to see a love map!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:14 PM
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18. thanks!
just added myself to the map.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:51 AM
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26. thanks--added myself (nt)
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 08:03 AM
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34. Thank you! Standing strong against hate in Euclid, OH! nt
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:42 AM
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25. ugh! a nest of neo-nazis only 75 miles from me in Maine
informative but depressing -- and Massachusetts, which appears sparsely populated by teabaggers in the other map, has 16 sites of hatred.

btw--speaking of Maine, I recently learned that author Carolyn Chute is a nutbagger militia member and quite zealous about it. I remember the big hoopla for a while after "The Beans of Egypt, Maine" was published--glad I never read anything by that POS, wouldn't want to bankroll her crusade on behalf of the poor widdle oppressed gun-toting "fweedom fighters."
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:39 PM
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10. Hey! That's the Faux News viewership map. What a coincidence!
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:33 PM
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13. What;'s with the blotch in NYS?
Looks to be in the Adirondacks...are they all bivouacking in the park?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:35 PM
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14. That big brown splotch in Alaska is right over Wasilla.
Quelle surprise. :eyes:
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:51 PM
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15. Oh great. There is a dark spot on my city.
we have worked extraordinarily hard the past 25 years to wrest this county from the clutches of the republican heathen.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:53 PM
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16. So where are the movements
for those that are anti Tea-Baggers!?!?!

I've been looking for local groups to stage protests against these tea whatevers and can't find any groups outside the major downtown hubs. I'm about to join a tea party just so I can infiltrate and see when they're meetings and agenda are so I can help to sabotage... any joiners?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:55 AM
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27. try meetup.com
you can find groups into all sorts of things with their search engine.
would join you, but I see by your profile you're on the opposite coast from me--lol
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 09:50 AM
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35. Just a few thousand miles! :)
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:53 PM
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17. a close-up of a teabagger movement.
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 04:54 PM by KG
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 10:26 PM
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20. Does it spread faster than Kudzu? /nt
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 10:43 PM
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21. How is it there are any in Washington?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:49 AM
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22. Pockets of bigotry
and pockets of ignorance. That is all.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:38 AM
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24. Good for Hawaii! They made it without a green dot!
There are a lot of liberals in Hawaii.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:38 AM
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29. The only possible correlation I see in New England
Is with the population of whitetail deer or bear. I beleive that the poster who mentioned the numbers skewing in areas of very low population makes a valid point.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:58 AM
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30. not surprising at all.
There are fewer of them than the media presents, but corporate sponsorship and the love of "bus-trips with signs & box lunches" makes them seem more widespread..
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 07:45 AM
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31. Why so many in that western blot in NM? Is it well-to-do retirees?

I'm amazed there are no dark green blotches in SC...
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 09:54 AM
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36. Nope-ranchers and ranching -related economy--and like so many "red" areas
lots of land with few people.
From Wikipedia:
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the county has a total area of 6,929 square miles (17,946 km²), of which, 6,928 square miles (17,943 km²) of it is land and 1 square miles (3 km²) of it (0.02%) is water.

Catron County is the largest county, by area, in New Mexico. At almost 7,000 square miles (18,000 km2), Catron County is larger than a few Eastern states. With a population of only 3,400 people, the county is as sparsely populated as many an old West frontier area.

Some locals spoke of seeing unmarked helicopters performing secret maneuvers, of "government Rambo squads" that were out to rob ranchers of their livelihood. One man said federal forces were, at that very moment, marching on the county from the north. As tempers smoldered, Nancy Brown, a neighbor of the Crabills, stood and recounted a recent dream in which the demons of gun control kicked in her front door. "I pulled a double-barrel shotgun," she said, "and asked, 'Which one of you sons of Satan wishes to die first?



In the end, Catron County did not create a formal militia that night, mainly because the county commission, the previous August, had passed a resolution "encouraging" heads of households to own and carry guns at all times and to keep sufficient ammunition on hand. Before the meeting wound down, the point became abundantly clear: Plenty of people in the county already were armed and prepared to do battle with the federal government or other alien invaders. The citizens of Catron County didn't need to form a militia. They were a militia.

Seditious talk is nothing new in this defiant corner of southwestern New Mexico. From the deeply canyoned Mimbres, Mangas, Tularosa, and Mogollon Mountains--watersheds of the mighty Gila and San Francisco Rivers--and across the arroyo-scarred desert that spreads in all directions, the area has housed fugitives from every conceivable oppressor. Confederate veterans and copperheads, as northerners who sympathized with the South were known, emigrated here during Reconstruction to escape the wrath of carpetbaggers. Apache chieftains Mangas Colorado and Geronimo came in the late 1800s to elude the U.S. Cavalry. In the 1930s, socialists trickled in seeking refuge from incessant red-baiting. Hippies came in the sixties to flee the city. And in 1980, Dave Foreman, who had run away from the bureaucratic bore of Washington environmentalism, cofounded Earth First! in the town of Glenwood. Mix it all with the feisty spirit imported by nineteenth-century waves of English, Scottish, and Irish settlers--whose memories of enclosures and royal high-handedness made them wary of both fences and authority--and Catron County's undercurrent of anarchy, detectable in the briefest of conversations, begins to make sense. Here, in one of the most desolate patches of the Southwest, is a culture that prides itself on refusing to take any crap from outsiders.

Starting in 1989, Catron County codified that sentiment, passing county ordinances that essentially told the U.S. government to shove it. Through a series of laws and an accompanying land-use plan that have made the county famous--even though, to this day, they remain paper threats that have never been enforced--the ordinances granted the commissioners unilateral power to veto federal endangered-species and wilderness regulations and to pass judgment on all timber and mining decisions. They also defined public grazing permits as "private property rights" and authorized the county sheriff to arrest any federal or state official who attempted to enforce the despised federal statutes. This in a county where more than 65 percent of the land is owned by the U.S. government.

http://outside.away.com/outside/magazine/1195/11f_lib.html
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 07:54 AM
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32. Anyone have that "Jesusland" map from the Bush election years?
I'm going to bet that it's a close match to this one.

No matter how much the tea partiers like to boast they are "bipartisan" or ideologically independent, or "just as mad at Bush and this has nothing to do with race!!111!!!", i'm going to guess there's significant overlap on these two maps.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 07:56 AM
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33. Figures. The lone teabagger living in MA is in my government 101 class
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