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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:02 PM Original message |
"A young drunk girl out club-hopping is fair game." |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good Lord. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. The laws protect the stupid, too. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It is precisely the stupid that need the protection of the law. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That's right. We need to protect the weak from the strong, the stupid from the smart. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. The thing is, the weak become strong, and the stupid smart, over time. |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. people make stupid statements like that until they have a daughter or neice or granddaughter who is |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Saved a few of those girls from those guys. They usually want to fight. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. "game"?? as in "prey"? like some animal? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. Those knuckles must be pretty scarred up. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. i just keep remembering |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I can tell you |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. well, see.... lol, this is what i am saying. nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. He's not bad, he's willing to cause trouble for the right reasons. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. yup. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. This person probably really believes this |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. My comment wasn't directed toward this multi-million dollar famous sports star nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. right, cause commenting on a man talking about a drunk girl free game = male hating. nt |
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Crystal Clarity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Rape is not about "getting laid" |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
75. Rapists rape for all kinds of different reasons. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. If he had "more ass than a toilet seat" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I doubt that ANY |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. No, several posters here have openly stated that drunk women are fair game. |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Fair game |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. A year ago there was a thread about a date-rape scene in the movie "Observe and Report". |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. And there was similar thread |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Argh |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Odin is correct - DU'ers have indeed excused rape - up to and including forcible child rape. |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Please |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Remember the Roman Polanski threads? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. *crickets* |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Google Search Is Your Friend |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. posters have done this for deniers in the past. once effort put in, ignored.... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. That's Why I Refuse To Go Digging |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. me too. and i am really bad at searching. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. There are different levels of drunkenness. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. or passed out. that is what odin was refering to with the movie. the woman |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. That's pretty much the attitude that our entire culture has. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. Lovely. Just lovely. People like that everywhere probably. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. She had boobs and a vag. She was ASKING for it! Sheesh, people! |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. I don't even know how to respond to something that barbaric |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. And the rich get richer. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. If she can be talked out of her panties, she may be fair game... |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. If that is true |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. If the woman were willing to cooperate with the DA |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
33. How dare a woman be drunk in a bar???? |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
35. Reality challenges an awful lot of people. n/t |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. We don't claim it's OK to rob a man of his wallet just because he's drunk |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
38. "When there is an inequality of power, there can be no consent!" |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. Does that mean nobody ever really consents to a car search, |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
40. I will automatically confront anyone I hear speak this way. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. this is the really important part of what males, especially males, have got to do |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. So, men practicing violence on men=good |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. ah, the word challenge ='s violence to you, does it. i was thinking more, speak up, speak out |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I mention that it would not be violent. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. ha ha. yes. you said non violent. and i said "talk". and the poster took to violence |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. Confront is a fine word. |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I took the time to specifically indicate it would not be violent. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. i took the time to specifically give examples of how to communicate |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:47 AM Original message |
"men listen to men way more than women" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
63. men do everything and so much for other males. it can also be said, that women |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
43. It's another twist on the Kobe Bryant defense |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
46. Sad to say, many people believe this, so a young woman drinking heavily should either |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
47. How dare a woman refuse a man sex under any circumstances? Especially if she's drunk. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
52. I used to barhop a lot when I was young...a question |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. It qualifies as long as there is not a possibility for mutual consent. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. which is my point-is this an "equal" law? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. i am a mother of 2 sons and though sons and i have discussion on how |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. reported assault-I agree-some stats from RAINN |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. ah. come on w8. i am not going to get into this petty argument. anyone fucking anyone against |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I wonder how many are raped by women. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. exactly redqueen. nt |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Is 'groping' the same as forced penetration? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. exactly. and just so the obvious is said out loud. if a woman is groping a man that does NOT |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. That jumped out at me, too. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. I'll refer you to this DU thread-you tell me- is it sexual violence to shove your hand |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Any of that can be considered sexual assault. But you used the word 'rape'. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
60. I can't believe one anonymous idiots post can get people so worked up. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Well, thanks for the tip sonny, but I've seen comments like this |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. except it isnt just one comment and it is a discussion on a discussion board. |
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