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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:24 PM Original message |
On mass deportations and racism in US History. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep. Nothing more American that what's happened in Arizona. Nice post. |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. USA ==> United States of the Anglos |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Who the anglos are changes from generation to generation |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Off To The Greatest Page With You !!! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Thanks |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Nor should we forget what Carey McWilliams called the California Japanese War... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I knew I was forgetting a group |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. In La Jolla, even up into the 60's after the civil rights act... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. And that was the case in way too many La Jollas across the country |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Another reason to hate La Jolla.... |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. It is not La Jolla, but the people who made it. n/t |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. And the Chinese Exclusion Act |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. Initially more a MA colony rather than VA story. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Actually White Slavery came to Virginia first |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. It was still being practiced in the mid-late 1800s |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Indeed and the White Star line transported many undesirables |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. He ended up in Indiana, so much for the "Free" North, huh |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Racial, chattel slavery started in MA, not VA |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Give me a second |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Gilbert's 1578 expedition failed, was heading into present day Canada |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I know that, but the precedent was his expedition |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Attitude on labor set my New England elites, not indentured or other workers |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. It was not just Cotton Mather or the New England Elites |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Pervasive, yes, but led by New England, enshrined by NE historians |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. We are free to disagree |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. American Exceptionalism, intolerance, and bigotry are at the core of our problems |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. First African slaves British North America |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. They were not "slaves", but "servants" to use the terms of the time |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. and as a piece of trivia from very modern research |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. Shouldn't leave out the "sundown towns" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Of course not |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Sundown towns first in early colonial times, whole states later |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. "Plane Wreck at Los Gatos," Woody Guthrie |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
22. K & R |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. And there were the Irish, the Italians and the Chinese. All were severely discriminated against. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Of course |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. But they were all pretty well assimilated but it took a over a generation to happen. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. And we'd have to ask why the brown were not, mostly |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
31. k/r -- good post and discussion |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
32. The Protestant ethic. But ethnic cleansing in this hemisphere began with Columbus and the Arawaks. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. You know my problem with the Spanish Black Legend |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
34. History will not |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Sadly depends on who wins this battle |
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