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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:04 PM Original message |
Why boycotting Arizona is a bad idea |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Does your state get it? |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, most people here are appalled by the law |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Are you sure? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You heard right |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Really? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Both Keith and Rachel covered it yesterday |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Thanks! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. And bellow Rasmussen |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Lies, damn lies and stattistics: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. 500 people is a reasonable population for sampling. |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
85. A nationwide |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:22 AM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Sigh. |
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Corey_Baker08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. wrong post! n/t |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 05:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I resent that. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. They surveyed 500 people !!!!! |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Most people in the state support the law. |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Rasmussen... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. So shave ten percent off it |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. A common result when you don't like the results of a poll |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. i live in arizona. no one asked me |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
46. you weren't asked |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Bullshit - I bet you that most of the phone calls went out to certain zip codes, and mostly in |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Then I'm sure you will be showing us a poll with the true result. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Even the RWers I know are against this law. |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. They are? Then why did it pass? EASILY?? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. The voters didn't vote for this. It was passed in the state congress. |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
86. Uh, isn't that |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Self-answering question, actually. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. I Really Enjoyed Going To Baseball Spring Training In Arizona |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. Look I understand your pain |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. Some time? It has been like 20 years since the MLK holiday thing. You want more time??? |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. +1000 |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Out of the various alternatives available to me at that moment.... |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yeah. What I find really fucked up is |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Totally. Someone actually told me a day or so ago that I would feel differently if it were WA. |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
88. Rome was not built in a day and the LDS are a major political force |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
16. Could it be all the dissing Obama, the overt racism not be called out |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. Actually boycotting your state may be the best remedy of all. At least |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
21. I also posted this yesterday Nick but some just wanna hate on something rather than doing |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Perhaps you should move? Do you really want to live among racists & birthers? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I can't afford to move. Thanks to our commitments to running for office twice |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Ask the survivors of the Montgomery Bus boycotts about "suffering". You don't know "suffering". |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Thanks for your compassion. We might not be able to survive another six months |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Here's wishing you don't "lose everything". But my compassion extends to |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I don't think anyone should have to show "papers". It is an outrage |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. The "very people this affects" called for a targeted boycott. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
95. You're demanding that others help you take the state back |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. If the numbers came hard and fast enough, it would be even shorter than that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. Supporting the Latino community's boycott is not simply "hate" |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
87. Something constructive? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. Dude, your state heavily favors this racist law. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Then how about you help change that by supporting Arizona Dems |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Arizona law is for Arizonans to fix. nt |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Maybe a boycott WILL support AZ dems... |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'd love to, but I can't. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Why not invest in the party that will overturn this law? |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I suppose if I had unlimited funds I would. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. Recent stats show Democratic voters closing in on GOP voters: GOP: 1,137,262, Dems: 1,046,140 |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. And it's clear many of those Ds support this law. nt |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
89. You are wrong... Forget the Rasmussen poll |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. Imagiine what those numbers would do if Latino voting rights were secure. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
32. according to the numbers I've seen, the public in AZ supports the law |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. No one I've spoken to here supports it. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. The two issues are twined. Voter disenfranchisement of Latinos |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
40. It Worked When AZ Refused to Recognize MLK Day |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. But the actions of Az regarding MLK Day were massively unpopular. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
41. cuz u live there? |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. That is a Red Dawn quote. |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
45. I feel your pain. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
51. yeah, fuck that. A loss in tourism money is the perfect way to send a message |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Well, who has the money right now to spend on tourism? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. A lot of people actually. Traveling doesn't cost that much |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Wow, you have more money than I do. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. If you know how to work the time share spots, you can vacation |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Time share spots? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
55. It's bad for Arizona...but that's the point. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. You either are a part of the solution or part of the problem. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I'm donating...and I'm boycotting. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. 1 solution, and 1 footstomping |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Do you know what brought the Apartheid government down? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Actually other things came into play with South Africa |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. Nikki, consider this. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. EDIT |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
96. These are progressives, right, not blue dogs? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
57. When community workers and journalists and human rights activists |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. Arizona's new state song...Arizona uber allles |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. I would never go there.. |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
65. you most certainly do NOT "got it" |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hit the GOP lawmakers where it hurts: their almighty $ then see how quickly they have a change |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. Exactly |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
78. Sorry. Your state openly supports racism. I can't help you. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
79. Do you have the documentation that proves the boycott is a bad idea? |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
81. A call to oppose |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
90. Terry Goddard Leads Jan Brewer In Arizona Gov's Race |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
91. Having lived in various red states for many years... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
93. How do you explain the 11 point swing to Brewer by white Arizonans since she bill signing? |
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