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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 08:49 PM Original message |
Beware of Greeks bearing fists..... |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Dead bodies it is then. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Oh look, it's Boss Frick. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Actually, this didn't deserve an ironic answer. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. “Capitalists can buy themselves out of any crisis... |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The elected govt ran up the debt, and it has to be paid. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Actually, no, it doesn't have to be paid. nt |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yes, I'm afraid it does. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. What is this, faith-based economics? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Greech will, but Greece probably won't. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I don't live in Greece, and I hope they tell the banks to fuck off. nt |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. That is so true. It doesn't have to be repaid. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Many nations haven't paid, and prospered afterwards. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Try to be serious. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Try to make a coherent argument. nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn!!!" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. "Noah? This is God. " nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. "First one of them wanted their freedom, now they all want their freedoms!" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. It's almost a rule, you don't pay, then you are better off. nt |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Argentina had 25% unemployment, |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. They seem to think so. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. They didn't at the time. People starved. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. People starve when the "austerity program" is enacted too. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Those starving people deposed a half-dozen presidents until they got one who was willing to default. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Hm, you left out what happened in the eight years after Argentina's intelligent default. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Try again. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Hello, it says the same thing as the passage I posted... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. (Oops - forgot to give the citation: It's from the Argentina entry in the CIA World Fact Book) |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. BTW Roubini seems to agree with many of us that it DOES NOT have |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. The elected government, with help from Goldman Sachs, committed fraud |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. As for the "extravagant" benefits, these are mostly their wages... |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. When you lot are through with the rah rah routine |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Excellent. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No, it never will. But it might kill you. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. That's all right, no one gets to live forever. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Always with the threats. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Tsk. Feeling grumpy are we? |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Skipping out on debts is never a wise idea. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Still no facts, just fear. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. List of famous bankruptcies, most of whom went on to great success afterwards. |
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Pryderi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. Retirement benefits at age 58???? |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Plus 2 months extra pay a year, at jobs people often |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. You should want to see it universalized. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Being deadbeats? No |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Obviously you think it's better when just a few deadbeats get 90 percent of the pie. |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
38. Since you are still unable to discuss this rationally, |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Right, you should just give up now. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. WTF are you talking about? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Well, you are definitely in the wrong place if you want supine agreement |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Just like those lazy subprime borrowers in Cleveland caused the crash of 2008... |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. That's the problem. Nobody knows what they're talking about. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Yeah, you certainly haven't wasted time arguing with people in this thread.... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. "arguing" is a charitable description |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Well you definitely don't. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Right, no one knows what they are talking about except you. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. "...May Day festivities turned into a bitter protest against draconian austerity measures..." |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
56. I still think it's hilarious that |
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