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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 11:56 PM
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Sydney Morning Herald - At last, truth in cigarette advertising
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/at-last-truth-in-cigarette-advertising-20100429-ttkh.html



From January 2012, all cigarettes will be sold in plain packages. No logos, no shiny finishes, no bright colours, no pretty pictures. Instead of reassuring and persuasive brand imagery, graphic health warnings will dominate the pack. The tobacco industry has long acknowledged the huge importance that packaging has within the marketing mix. In 1995, a tobacco industry executive summed it up perfectly, ". . . if you smoke, a cigarette pack is one of the few things you use regularly that makes a statement about you. A cigarette pack is the only thing you take out of your pocket 20 times a day and lay out for everyone to see. That's a lot different than buying your soap powder in generic packaging."

Plain packaging is nothing short of a triumph for health promotion and chronic disease prevention. In studies with young people, plain packs were perceived as dull and boring, cheap-looking and reduced the flair and appeal associated with smoking. Conversely, the industry has invested heavily in researching and designing packages that serve to increase the appeal of smoking. In the industry's own words, packs aimed at younger women should be "slick, sleek, flashy, glittery, shiny, silky, and bold". A brown box featuring a diseased lung can hardly be seen as fitting this glamorous description.

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Let's hope this spreads like cancer.


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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:28 AM
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1. i suspect that the old cigarette cases will make a comeback
this might help, but i think the law of unintended consequences might kick in.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 01:39 AM
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3. The graphics are already on the packaging- what this does is take away the additional branding
Edited on Sun May-02-10 01:40 AM by depakid
It'll be interesting to see what additional effect this has on the prevalence of tobacco use, particularly among those who consider starting.

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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:42 AM
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6. Probably.
I would like to think one of those consequences would be a partial victory over incessant advertising and branding everything under the sun.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:31 AM
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22. +1 nt
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:56 AM
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9. That's what I thought when I heard of this-cigarette cases will sell like wild, now.
Maybe we should invest in companies that make them.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:15 AM
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18. delete
Edited on Sun May-02-10 10:15 AM by depakid
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 01:26 AM
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2. All Packaging for products that are dangerous should have similar images
For example:

White bread should go from this:


To this:


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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:39 AM
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5. Gaaaaaaaaa!
It works. I won't eat anything for a week. :rofl:

So many of our problems are overconsumption. The advertising warps our culture by making all the wrong things waaay too important. Wonder Bread is ok if someone doesn't eat much of it. And if they like chewing on cardboard.

We could probably smoke a cigarette or two occasionally and not suffer from it, but they design them to be as addictive as possible and incessantly tell us that we need to have one in hand all the time.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:03 AM
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11. LOL!!
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:19 AM
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19. Oh FFS!
Why'd you have to go and do that?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 02:54 AM
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4. Currently packs of cigarettes depict gruesome images as well as brands.
Teenagers are collecting them like trading cards. While they may find the plain part boring, they find the disease photos fascinating.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:51 AM
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7. Are they going to put them on cars too? Cause they cause a ton more health issues than smokes
Of course the hypocrites would be against doing such because they love their cars and hate that some people do things they don't like. Kind of reminds me of my fundie sister.

No wonder I am a progressive, I grew up around controlling fundies who will do anything to get you to conform.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:02 AM
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10. Australia takes the road toll very seriously
Edited on Sun May-02-10 10:16 AM by depakid
It's not as easy to get a drivers license as it is in the US. You have to go through an L plate, a Red P (provisional and green P plate, each with its own restrictions. Takes a couple of years.

Moreover, you can lose it easier, too. For instance, during certain times such as holidays, double demerits apply. There are speed and red light cameras in certain locations- as well as "black spot projects" for particularly dangerous spots.

The permitted alcohol level after you're off of P plates is .05, and random breathalyzer stops in the morning on the way to work occur from time to time.

And the measures are working:

The final road toll figures for 2008 have been released, setting last year’s record at 1463 road casualties.

This is a reduction of 153 deaths over 2007 and 135 over 2006. The good news is this is the best year on record since 1949, it sounds even better when you take into consideration that there are 11 times more vehicles on the road today than back then.

More: http://www.caradvice.com.au/21484/2008-road-toll-figures-lowest-in-59-years/


Compare those safety stats per capita with the United States and see what you find (despite having better roads).

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:05 AM
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14. I meant from the car pollution (nt)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:12 AM
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17. Last I heard, cigarettes didn't get one from point A to point B
but our taxis (and many of our cars) do run on LPG- nearly the entire nation's been set up for that since the Arab oil embargo.

As far as public information campaigns go- I like our anti-hooning one (directed at young males who speed, burn out and drive recklessly, i.e. hoons):

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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:08 AM
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15. Cigarette smoke never really bothered me
until I found myself working right above a guy's head for several hours unloading a truck. He was one of those guys who could have a cigarette in his mouth all the time (with one eye squeezed shut). For years after that every time I even smelled cigarette smoke for more than a few minutes I got a head cold.

I don't think it was the smoke itself that was bad but the fact that I breathed it constantly for several hours. I am wondering if overconsumption is more of a factor in cigs than anything else.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:22 AM
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20. Are you also addicted to tobacco?
Curious.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:55 AM
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8. But that's not the truth.
Edited on Sun May-02-10 09:57 AM by Kalyke
It's never been scientifically proven that smoking causes lung cancer:

http://www.inspire.com/groups/lung-cancer-survivors/discussion/smoking-does-not-cause-lung-cancer/

Smoking Does Not Cause Lung Cancer

(According to WHO/CDC Data)*

By: James P. Siepmann, MD

Yes, it is true, smoking does not cause lung cancer. It is only one of many risk factors for lung cancer. I initially was going to write an article on how the professional literature and publications misuse the language by saying "smoking causes lung cancer"1,2, but the more that I looked into how biased the literature, professional organizations, and the media are, I modified this article to one on trying to put the relationship between smoking and cancer into perspective. (No, I did not get paid off by the tobacco companies, or anything else like that.)

When the tobacco executives testified to Congress that they did not believe that smoking caused cancer, their answers were probably truthful and I agree with that statement. Now, if they were asked if smoking increases the risk of getting lung cancer, then their answer based upon current evidence should have be "yes." But even so, the risk of a smoker getting lung cancer is much less than anyone would suspect. Based upon what the media and anti-tobacco organizations say, one would think that if you smoke, you get lung cancer (a 100% correlation) or at least expect a 50+% occurrence before someone uses the word "cause."


But, you know what has been proven to cause lung cancer?

  • Birds

  • Obesit

  • Inactivity

  • Pollution

  • Poor Diet


  • Do they put that statement on the boxes of Twinkies or the exhausts of automobiles or at the pet store?
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    rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:04 AM
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    12. Interesting.
    For me overconsumption is more of a bugaboo than the product itself.
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    Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:11 AM
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    16. Overconsumption of anything causes problems.
    That's why you should eat a variety of fruits and vegetables, etc. - it's healtier for you.
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    rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:30 AM
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    21. Yeah. I'd eat rocks if they had sugar on them. nt
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    Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:26 AM
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    24. LOL.
    But then your teeth would break.


    Never-the-less... and I say this as a menopausal women who still has her period... I LUVS ME SOME CHOCOLATE, but... I try not to eat it all month long - just when my endorphins need it.

    :hi:
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    laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:38 AM
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    23. It is one risk factor. Some years back an oncologist with whom I was working told me
    it takes, they believe, 3 'hits' to cause lung cancer. He described 'hits' as significant exposure to mutagenic substances. He said we are not yet aware of all the substances which can contribute to lung cancer but that smokers know they have 1 'hit,' and have no way of knowing if they have 2 more. There is no doubt smoking can contribute to the development of lung cancer. There is also no doubt that most people believe there is a much higher rate of lung cancer among smokers than is accurate. Currently, about 10-20% of smokers develop lung cancer.
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    proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:04 AM
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    13. Makes me want a cigarette.
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