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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:16 AM
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Obese kids more vulnerable to bullies
Obese kids more vulnerable to bullies

(Health.com) -- Children in Grades 3 through 6 who are obese are more likely to be bullied than their normal-weight peers, a new study has found.

No one who has attended grade school -- or who has even the slightest familiarity with children -- will be surprised by these findings. What is surprising, however, is that obese children are bullied more often even if they possess qualities that can discourage bullies, such as having good social skills or doing well in school.

"When we started this study, I really suspected that we might find that the obesity or overweight might not be the driving force," says the lead author of the study, Julie Lumeng, M.D., a professor of pediatrics at the University of Michigan, in Ann Arbor. "What we found is that it didn't matter. No matter how good your social skills, if you were overweight or obese you were more likely to be bullied."

In the study, which appears this week in the journal Pediatrics, Lumeng and her colleagues followed more than 800 children -- all born in 1991 -- from 10 cities across the U.S. When the children were in the third, fifth, and sixth grades, the researchers surveyed teachers, mothers, and the children themselves about whether they were bullied, and also surveyed the adults about the children's social skills. They then compared these responses with the children's body mass index, a simple ratio of height and weight.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/05/03/obesity.bullying/index.html?hpt=C2
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:17 AM
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1. A new study? I knew that 35 years ago.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:23 AM
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5. lol. i mean DUH
seriously. falls under "studies that reconfirm the obvious"
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:26 AM
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7. It would be more interesting to see a psychological profile of a bully
I think there is something twisted, sick and sad about anyone that bullies because they can get away with it, and I'm betting it starts at a very early age.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:32 AM
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12. it most definitely usually does ime
i see it all the time

i arrest people who are essentially adult bullies, all the time.

a cursory study of their history consistently shows a looooong history of such behavior. ime.

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:39 PM
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21. yeah, I was going to say something similar
I also wore glasses (still do)
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:46 PM
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23. they just wanted to "make sure"
:eyes:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:18 AM
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2. In today's United States, it should be the skinny kids getting picked on
since they are the different ones.




















Disclaimer: I'm only making a point. No, I don't believe skinny kids should be bullied. I don't thing ANYONE should be bullied.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:46 AM
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15. Actually (bizarrely) it's an accurate example of comparison to the US' Populace vs its gov's Power
Comparatively there are merely a handful of powerful orgs who hold all of the power, when The People could easily rise up and start fighting for morality and the betterment of all...yet so far, won't.

Which is to say, you'd think the overwight kids would outnumber the skinny ones
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:05 PM
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19. That happened to me in the early eighties.
I went to a home-based daycare, and the lady who ran it was rather pudgy, as was her daughter who was my age. I was a quiet kid and would never have said a thing about it, but apparently the daycare lady's way of propping up her daughter's self-esteem was to tease me endlessly about being too skinny.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:07 PM
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26. I got that so much growing up.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 09:07 PM by nonconformist
I was always a skinny kid, and I used to get teased all the time. Thinking back on it, it was mostly by adults. And this was in the late 70s and through the 80s, when it was more common than not that young kids were thin.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:19 AM
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3. They needed a study for that?
n/t
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:22 AM
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4. When I heard this study reported on teevee, I laughed. Can't believe
that funding could be rounded up! WHO doesn't already know this? I went to grade school in the fifties and it was true then and I haven't noticed any change since.
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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:24 AM
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6. so how much did that study cost???? nt
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:26 AM
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8. Everything in that article sounds reasonable.

What was notable is that it's the obese kids who are bullied more often, not overweight kids.

When I was in school, it was the obese and overweight kids who bullied us smaller children. The last paragraph of the article bears that out too.

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:33 AM
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13. I believe you missed the following
>When I was in school, it was the obese and overweight kids who bullied us smaller children. The last paragraph of the article bears that out too.<

The article mentions that previous studies showed a tendency towards bullying being done by children who were obese, but recent findings do not support this.

THIS I found most interesting, and see it on a daily basis at DU:

>One reason that children might be more apt to pick on their overweight classmates is that they are taking after adults, says Davis.

"Children pick up behaviors from adults, so we always have to keep in mind how we're modeling respect for others around multiple issues, including weight," he says. "Imagine how many signals kids get about weight just by hearing conversations by adults or seeing advertisements on TV. The messages are everywhere in terms of trying to control weight and be a different size than you are right now."<
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:20 PM
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20. Please read the last three paragraphs again, as it does NOT say that the new study

does not support this. In fact, it appears that the new study leader has found some explanation for why this behavior might be so. Children who lack impulse control, etc.

I find it interesting also that kids pick up their cues from adults, which isn't surprising in the least, and as parents spend less time with their kids and we become more cold-hearted as a society in general, it doesn't bode well. But then again, I listen to my aunts who went to school in the 60s and 70s, and they say it wasn't unusual or frowned upon to bully and call other kids retards or cripple, or any number of horrid labels, that were totally ignored and condoned by teachers.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:26 AM
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9. too slim. too fat. i have a husky and a skinny. my skinny one thought he had it worse
because of being male and so skinny.... not "manly". at least with youngest son, he is strong and hefty. doesnt give the youngest a pass when a kid wants to name call.

gotta be perfectly aligned with societies demand. but even if you are... there is ALWAYS something else to be cruel/tease about if a bully goes after a kid
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:04 PM
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25. I could have written your post.
I too have a skinny son and one who is built more stocky. Oldest skinny son is/was the one that was teased the most, for being so thin. Younger son is not immune to teasing, but in today's world even though he is technically slightly overweight, he fits right in basically.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:27 AM
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10. I notice there isn't one person on this thread
who's actually said that perhaps, the bullying needs to stop.

After all, it's "safe", isn't it? If you're not the one at the receiving end, it just doesn't matter, does it?

:eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:29 AM
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11. *sigh*. and bullying is wrong. period. regardless. nt
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fatbuckel Donating Member (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:41 AM
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14. And apparently not breathing may result in passing out,another study has concluded...
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:47 AM
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16. Obese ADULTS are also more susceptible to bullies
Bullies often never grow up--just taller and older. Adult bullies pick on the heavyset all the time. I'm fed up with being bullied, especially by teenagers and young adults who think their elders owe them a living.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:53 AM
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18. They back down when you call them out
It's always surprising to me how quickly bullies will find something else to do when you call them on their bad behavior.

Stand up for yourself. Even if your voice shakes while you're doing it.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:53 AM
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17. Ohhhhh no, you don't have to be obese... 15+ lbs. over is more than enough for some people
I remember well.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 01:33 PM
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24. That was definetly true, back in the 60s, 70s, or 80s, when obesity wasn't as common.
But I wonder if these days, when so many children are so overweight or obese, the merely-overweight kids are spared teasing or bullying since they look like everyone else?
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:44 PM
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22. I was an overweight kid this isn't news to me n/t
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:27 PM
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27. i swear someone will actually use this as an argument against child obesity
Edited on Mon May-03-10 09:35 PM by miscsoc
and for healthy eating etc.

actually that doctor on there sort of already is

obesity isn't healthy but even if all kids where in perfect physical condition they'd just find some other random attribute to pick on.

shit, at my school kids with the wrong colour of hair got bullied. kids will find an excuse.

"Overweight children are caught in a vicious circle of self-destructive behavior, Rimm says. "They're inactive, and they're sad kids, and they use eating as gratification," she says. "Of course, the effect is that continued eating is almost their only source of satisfaction, and so it's a terrible cycle."

Protecting overweight kids -- socially and physically --requires helping them break this cycle, Rimm adds.

"A key thing is to discover their strengths and get them involved and active in extracurricular activities," she says. "If they concentrate only on their weight, they're not going to build confidence.""

Rimm can go fuck himself. Any parent who gets their kid to lose weight because they are being bullied about it (as opposed to for sensible health related reasons) is a fucking idiot.

Even if a kid did stop getting bullied after losing weight some other poor little bastard would take his place as a victim. The idea that you can reduce bullying by getting rid of kids who have something different about them is witless.
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